POLICE on irc?

martin · none Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 24

I run a LOCAL irc network of about 2,500 users and around 5,000-6,000 spontaneous users. Its has come to my attention that local police are using this network to find out who is providing alcohol to minors. My network ranges from ages 12 - 25. Is there anything I can do to stop the police from using this method to catch people doing this? Maybe a disclaimer of some sort? Is this entrapment?

Horizon · Posted: Nov 17, 2003 7:14pm Post subject:

Well... if you try to prevent it you then become liable. I doubt you're gonna want to do that. "Cyber Cops" are not that uncommon in my experience. Generally in the past from previous experience they will usually e-mail the owner of the domain to let them know whats going on. Or contact an abuse committee if you have one.

Alex

martin · none Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 24

I don't want the cops on my network.. I was not of age at one time.. nothing wrong with getting drunk and who is supposed to supply the booze if your not able to get it yourself? lol

Horizon · Posted: Nov 17, 2003 7:20pm Post subject:

IMO there isnt much you can do unless you want to get yourself involved. This is the same reason ircd's that hide hostmasks can be a bad idea as well.

ed · Posted: Nov 17, 2003 8:00pm Post subject:

You do reserve the right to deny access to anyone. Contact them, and ask what their hostnames are, and ban them. They should comply, no questions asked. Unless of course, they have a court behind them.

But, as Horizon said, I would let them do what they are going to do.

moonman · Lurker Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 212

the bottom line is they're going to do what they want to do. i'm on a large local forum community and we deal with several cops. most of them are cool and contribute to the forum. but you dont really want to ruffle any feathers. and writing disclaimers doesnt automatically make it legally binding. you can say "no cops allowed" all you want, but its not going to be all that effective.

[DiMENSiON] · Eleet Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 621

In the end it's alot better just to let 'em get on with it. Don't piss 'em off.

U · Eleet Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 521 Location: IRC

Honestly this is the first I've heard of this. But, I would advise your users that chatting in a public channel is just like chatting in public-if people want to listen in, they will.

If these people know they are being watched, why do they continue to discuss these things when those people are present? Maybe they would stop getting the attention if they stopped discussing things that aren't legal, perhaps?

joeyfehgg · Guest

when will skene eever have a site because your put a site up and it goes

Horizon · Posted: Nov 19, 2003 4:56pm Post subject:

*rubs his eyes* :?:

martin · none Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 24

Skene has a website but it is not finished.
http://www.skene.net/03

banger · Guest

mm i've got to be honest if thats all they have to do ( chase underage drinkers ) i wanna be one , what about the drunk drivers , what about the people who are beating others up because of alcohol, instead of the police being " desk jockeys" they should get of there back sides and catch some proper criminals. its a sad state of affairs if there going to police an irc channel in the hope that they will find undereage drinkers
just out of interest is it an american channel , if so why can young people buy guns and so forth but not drink ....... its a bit .. what the expression "arse about face " . at the end of the day it will always be an ongoing problem so it might be an idea to legalise it .

:evil: banger serevr undernet surrey england channel #micros4u

good people thanks

Wiggle · Newbie Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 81

Hi,

Truly I'm convinced that there is only a selective amount of policement working on IRC, I don't think the entire force does that. But if you insist, you said:

SubZer0 · none Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 31

Im totally againsts cops being on IRC, because it is bs, let ppl do what the ywant to do... *shrugz* thats my opinion

Anarchist · Guest

I'm totally against cops being on the streets. Let peeps do what they wanna do. Would be a better world, IMO.