Module Idea -- ircd coders read this please..

v0rtex · Lurker Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 108 Location: IRC

well.. ok.. i was sitting at work today and was bored... anyho... i thought about the fact that ( take a network LIKe efnet but maybe smaller in size ). Where generally you have X amount of different domains under one RR domain. A big issue here is that some servers agree with different things according to location, and alot of time are spent arguing about change. We all know the SERVER rules are stated in the motd that is normally shown on connect.

So to conquer this problem of conficts on rules, would it be possible for a module to be coded that gave each IRC server a letter and a number ( e.g. irc.someserver.com - A1 ----- irc.anotherserver.com - F3 ).

Then, according to there number different rules could be set, this could be enforced using added chan modes that are mandatory, if they fall into catagory a1 || F3 for example

e.g

A1 -- server1

Chans with this name in there topic == hiden on A1 ( XDCC, warez etc)

and then the same with F3 ( according to the servers rules )

maybe this could be better done by geogrqphical location..

ok.. feedback would be appriciated

magpie · Idler Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 454 Location: Essex, UK

A more sensible thing would be for a network to agree on a common set of rules to be enforced across all its servers. Having different servers use different channel modes depending on their individual rules is just going to cause problems.

w00t · Posted: Oct 28, 2004 6:20am Post subject:

Yes. The word "desync" springs to mind Razz

unless that is, you let any remote server do what it wished, which would probably not be a Good Thing (tm).

In addition, you would then have the crappy business of politics magnified by 300, with different rules on different servers. Probably not fun Razz

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Good to see that you are thinking though v0rtex.

aquanight · Lurker Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Boise, ID

Do I need to bring up &local channels here? Razz

Rather simple really: &local channels get covered by the server rules. #Normal channels get covered by network rules.

Anyway, IRCd2.11, IRCu, and Unreal3.2* have so-called "server numerics" so you could make a module to use this numeric to make the right decision(s). (Note: Unreal's numeric pool is smaller than IRCd2.11's or IRCu's.)

Ashen · Idler Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 285

If groups of servers can't even agree on common policy like that, it's better that they split off and form their own networks anyways. Trying to get people who insist on different policies together on the same network is a recipie for politics, anger and squits.

-Ashen

katsklaw · Guru Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1122

v0rtex · Lurker Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 108 Location: IRC

A more sensible thing would be for a network to agree on a common set of rules to be enforced across all its servers. Having different servers use different channel modes depending on their individual rules is just going to cause problems.

ok.. i understand what you are saying, but - with a network such as efnet, where there is no authority figure (1 + person), then this is impossible to do? no?

as for politics, in general on (efnet) for example, or any network like that, the continuation of the dns ( irc.imlinkedtoefnet.com ) is generally still used by there users (correct me if i am wrong)< this means that there rules are known and generally accepted by there users... why should it change!

ok

your thoughts guys and girls Smile

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magpie · Idler Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 454 Location: Essex, UK

EFnet could do it, if they could agree on a common set of rules. I've always thought it's pretty daft to have different rules on different servers, and no standard naming policy for the servers (both in terms of server names and domain names).

v0rtex · Lurker Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 108 Location: IRC

IF being the oporative word.. it is just NEVER going to happen

w00t · Posted: Nov 01, 2004 7:31pm Post subject:

It does. Have you heard of "Acceptable Use Policies" ? Smile

Many larger networks are run as democracies, where people vote, compromise etc. Netronet is run in such a fashion, no one person has exclusive say.

v0rtex · Lurker Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 108 Location: IRC

pffft - democrasy

katsklaw · Guru Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1122