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sliq
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 Posted: Jun 27, 2004 8:03am Post subject: Bersirc's New Owner |
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Mr. Copeland "TsTech" as he's come to been called thinks that he has the right to tell people that they can't use Bersirc 1.4, a source that he did not code, but rather bought. Now, on the installation of Bersirc 1.4 (which is freely distributed on his site) the license perfectly shows that you are making an agreement been yourself and Jamie Frater. In no part of this license does it say "Mr. Copelan". Do you feel that he has the right to tell people that you can't use an IRC client that I have been using wayyyyy longer than the person who now owns it?
License:
| Quote: | END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR BERSIRC BINARIES AND/OR SOURCE CODE
1. GENERAL USE LICENSE
This end-user license agreement (EULA) is a binding legal agreement between you and Jamie Frater and applies to BERSIRC, which includes all SOFTWARE and documentation as contained in the distribution package provided by Jamie Frater.
IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS EULA, DELETE THE APPLICATION PACKAGE PROVIDED TO YOU.
2. SOFTWARE USE
YOU ARE BOUND BY, AND INDICATE YOUR EXPLICIT ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT UPON PROCEEDING WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THIS PACKAGE.
N.Z AND INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT LAWS AND TREATIES, TO INCLUDE ALL INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAWS AND TREATIES, PROTECT THIS SOFTWARE.
THIS SOFTWARE IS LICENSED, NOT SOLD. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE CONTENTS OF THIS PACKAGE IN AN UNLIMITED CAPACITY, EXCLUDING EXCEPTIONS LISTED HEREIN. JAMIE FRATER RETAINS ALL RIGHTS OF OWNERSHIP, COPYRIGHT AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS TO THIS SOFTWARE AND ANY DERIVATIVES PRODUCED THEREOF.
2. SOURCE CODE USE
Source code purchased from Jamie Frater may be freely modified and recompiled binaries may be redistributed freely. YOU MAY NOT DISTRIBUTE ANY DERIVATIVE FORMS OF THE SOURCE CODE PURCHASED OR ANY PARTS THEREOF. JAMIE FRATER RETAINS FULL RIGHTS TO ANY PURCHASED SOURCE CODE AND DERIVATIVES THEREOF.
JAMIE FRATER PROVIDES NO GUARANTEE THAT PURCHASED SOURCE CODE WILL COMPILE, OR THAT ADDITIONAL LIBRARIES NEED NOT BE PURCHASED. YOU MUST PURCHASE ANY ADDITIONAL LIBRARIES OR SOURCE LICENSED BY JAMIE FRATER FROM THE ORIGINAL VENDOR. THIS LICENSE INCLUDES NO PROMISE OF SUPPORT OR DOCUMENTATION FOR SOURCE CODE PURCHASED.
YOU AGGREE, THAT JAMIE FRATER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY AND ALL DAMAGES WORN BY THIRD PARTIES AS A RESULT OF BINARIES PRODUCED FROM THIS SOURCE CODE, OR DERIVATIVES THEREOF.
3. LICENSE EXCLUSIONS. Under your license you:
a. May NOT distribute any modified compilation of the SOFTWARE by any means without PRIOR AUTHORISATION from Jamie Frater.
b. May NOT distribute source code or any portion thereof to anyone for any reason without PRIOR AUTHORISATION from Jamie Frater.
4. TERMINATION OF LICENSE
Unauthorised distribution of source Code or portions thereof is a crime. In addition to prosecution to the fullest extent of both civil and criminal laws, users found in violation of any stipulation of this EULA will have their license to this SOFTWARE and source code permanently revoked.
5. STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION
You may store and make available for electronic download, the original binary package, in an unmodified form, as provided by Jamie Frater, notwithstanding exclusions stated hereinbefore.
6. DE-COMPILATION AND REVERSE ENGINEERING.
You agree not to make any attempts to de-compile, reverse engineer, or disassemble the executable portions of the SOFTWARE to avoid the requirement to modify copyright displays, or the operational aspects of the SOFTWARE. |
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sliq
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Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Posts: 92
Location: IRC
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| Posted: Jun 27, 2004 8:07am Post subject: more |
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His behavior:
| Quote: | [05:33] * Hellwrath (hellwrath@staff.oceanius) has joined #lobby
[05:33] [Hellwrath:#lobby VERSION]
[05:34] [TsTech:#lobby VERSION]
[05:34] <TsTech> alex: I hereby revoke your license to use Bersirc. Uninstall it immediately.
[05:35] <null> dilpo
[05:36] <Dilpo> ?
[05:36] <null> Yes, you class me as your nephew, the kind you want to butt rape...correct?
[05:36] <null> lol TsTech your so funny
[05:36] <Dilpo> i duno i think i still might be slightly drunk
[05:36] <null> Nice
[05:36] <Dilpo> so what now?
[05:36] <Dilpo> oh
[05:36] <TsTech> null: Yes, I'm funny, and I own sole rights to Bersirc.
[05:36] <Dilpo> i jsut wanted to say that uncle thing to someone
[05:36] <null> Tell me you want me sideways
[05:37] <Dilpo> and no one else was awake
[05:37] <null> TsTech: tell me your real name then...because ive been on contact with James, for a long time...over alot of bersirc incidents, including his website
[05:37] <null> And to be honest, you dont match the ip i have of his.
[05:37] <Dilpo> who owns bersirc?
[05:37] <Dilpo> man that thing needs a new name
[05:37] <Dilpo> like
[05:38] <TsTech> I'm Nicholas Copeland. I purchased Bersirc from Jamie Frater in February of 2004.
[05:38] <Dilpo> bersirc
[05:38] <Dilpo> I'm captain brown eye. I***********.
[05:38] <Dilpo> oh
[05:38] <Dilpo> date
[05:38] <Dilpo> I'm captain brown eye. I *************April of 2002.
[05:39] <null> lol
[05:39] [null VERSION]
[05:39] <null> As far as i can see
[05:39] <null> hes using an open source , previously dated version
[05:39] <Dilpo> oh bitch
[05:39] <Dilpo> owned
[05:39] <null> still owned by jamie frater at the time of download and install
[05:39] <null> which means..
[05:39] <Dilpo> owned
[05:39] <null> he has rightsd to use that version
[05:39] <null> Especially since his version reply, shows " Jamie Frater "
[05:40] <null> And as does yours.
[05:40] <null> so, if you bought it, wouldnt you change the version ?
[05:40] <TsTech> Incorrect. He's using using proprietary, closed source software, owned by me.
[05:40] <null> I disagree....
[05:40] <null> bersirc.free2code.net shows...
[05:40] <null> CLEARLY
[05:40] <TsTech> Why? If you understood the nature of Bersirc, you would understand.
[05:40] <null> " BERSIRC OPEN SOURCE IRC "
[05:40] <Dilpo> You sound like a !@#$@#! robot. ***************[05:40] <null> OpenSource !
[05:41] <TsTech> null: Read the FAQ. Bersirc 2.1 is Open Source, Bersirc 1.4 remains closed.
[05:41] <TsTech> Also read the news posting, "All future versions will be open source"
[05:41] <Dilpo> http://www.tomservo.cc/show.aspx/ratsass.gif
[05:41] <Dilpo> thats all i have to say
[05:41] <null> lol
[05:42] <null> so your ordering people NOT to use your own software anymore ?
[05:42] <TsTech> Just alex.
[05:42] <Dilpo> i say let him take it to court
[05:42] <null> lol !!!!
[05:42] <null> Theres honestly nothing you can do to stop him
[05:42] <null> Believe me
[05:42] <TsTech> Yes there is, believe me.
[05:42] <TsTech> I take IP law very seriously.
[05:42] <null> At the time of download, and install upon his system, that version was owned by Jamie Frater, and currently free to all to use...
[05:43] <null> Any future contracts AFTER " purchase " or download..
[05:43] <null> Are therefor not included and have no effect.
[05:43] <TsTech> time of download doesn't mean shit. It's LICENSED, and licenses can be revoked.
[05:43] <null> Im partial lawyer...so dont get involved in laws
[05:43] <Dilpo> i thin TsTech just got owned like this guy http://www.tomservo.cc/show.aspx/ouch-redlight.jpg
[05:43] <Dilpo> think*
[05:43] <null> Trust me lol
[05:43] <null> Ive been in this situation MANY times
[05:43] <Dilpo> i like making points through pictures
[05:43] <Dilpo> it makes me feel smart
[05:43] <null> Nuttin you can do legally TsTech
[05:43] <null> so stop being a prat
[05:44] <TsTech> null: You're incorrect.
[05:44] <null> LMAO
[05:44] <Dilpo> !@#$@#! thing
[05:44] <Dilpo> wtf
[05:44] <null> well lets see
[05:44] <null> I can...
[05:44] <null> " emerge bersirc "
[05:44] <null> And it will download..
[05:44] <null> and INSTALL bersirc if i want, automatically
[05:44] <null> WITHOUT your consent
[05:44] <null> ...legally...anyone can do it.
[05:44] <TsTech> Bersirc 2.1, yes.
[05:44] <TsTech> Not bersirc 1.4.
[05:45] <Dilpo> watch me insteall bersirc 1.4
[05:45] <Dilpo> wanna watch?
[05:45] <null> wanna see screenies of me installin bersirc 1.4 an play wid the code ?
[05:45] <null> lol
[05:45] * fez (f@81.103.252.127) has joined #lobby
[05:45] <TsTech> Where will you get the code? 
[05:45] <null> LMAO
[05:45] <null> I already have it !
[05:46] <Dilpo> i'll take screen shots
[05:46] <null> Like I said...
[05:46] <Dilpo> of me installing it
[05:46] <Dilpo> right now
[05:46] <null> Ive known him for a long time
[05:46] <null> And have been in contact with him for ages
[05:46] <null> Gave me rights to his previous website source
[05:46] <null> So I could use it for my site
[05:47] <null> Dude, your really just foolin yourself if you think you can order people off of it.
[05:48] <TsTech> I'll send Mr. McMillen a court order.
[05:48] <null> Go for it...
[05:49] <null> But your wasting his time..yours..
[05:49] <null> And being a nob, over nothing. Because you honestly dont know wtf your doing lol
[05:49] <null> So kindly, hush.
[05:49] <null> http://bersirc.free2code.net/presite/www.bersirc.com/downloads.php
[05:50] <Dilpo> hey
[05:50] <Dilpo> -R
[05:50] <Dilpo> please?
[05:50] <null> -R ?
[05:50] <Dilpo> registered nick
[05:50] <Dilpo> Cannot join #lobby (you need a registered nick)
[05:50] <null> sorry
[05:50] <null> lol
[05:50] * OperServ sets mode +op null
[05:50] * null sets mode -R
[05:50] * Dilpo_Besirc14 (Bersirc@katy-adsl-dhcp-net3-78.txucom.net) has joined #lobby
[05:50] <Dilpo_Besirc14> rawr
[05:50] <Dilpo_Besirc14> -> [Dilpo_Besirc14] VERSION
[05:51] <Dilpo_Besirc14> [Dilpo_Besirc14 VERSION]
[05:51] <Dilpo_Besirc14> [Dilpo_Besirc14 VERSION Reply]: Bersirc v1.40 Jamie Frater
[05:51] <Dilpo> lol
[05:51] <Dilpo> so like
[05:51] <Dilpo> whats wrong with using 1.4
[05:52] <null> TsTech: wot part of aussie land u from?
[05:53] <null> nevermind
[05:53] <null> new south whales
[05:53] <fez> the american part.
[05:54] <null> lol
*address removed*
[05:55] <null> ----
[05:55] <null> was just wonderin which one he is
[05:56] <fez> neither
[05:56] <TsTech> BBL, breakfast.
[05:57] * null sets mode +b *!*Bersirc@*.desm.qwest.net
[05:57] <null> No thanks
[05:57] <fez> he thinks your term, nico.
[05:57] <null> I know where terminal lives
[05:57] <null> I have his details and spoken to him many times
[05:57] <fez> well done.
[05:57] <null> But since hes CLAIMING
[05:57] <null> to be Mr Julienne and OWN it
[05:57] <null> That would be his details
[05:57] <Hellwrath> Null
[05:57] <fez> that's tstech
[05:57] <fez> he is from Iowa
[05:57] <Hellwrath> TsTech = Nicholas S Copeland
[05:57] <fez> he bought bersirc
[05:58] <null> ahh right, well that in that case fair enough 
[05:59] <fez> message from tstech...
[05:59] <fez> <TsTech> I'll send Mr. McMillen his cease and desist order through the post.
[05:59] <null> lmao
[05:59] <null> Kids
[05:59] <Dilpo> lol
[05:59] * null sets mode +b *!*@*.desm.qwest.net
[06:00] <Dilpo> http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload6/watch.gif
[06:01] <Dilpo> just incase he didn't believe me
[06:01] <Dilpo_Besirc14> kakaka
[06:01] * Dilpo_Besirc14 has quit IRC (Quit:)
[06:02] * null whistles
[06:03] * null sets mode -b *!*Bersirc@*.desm.qwest.net
[06:03] pee flaps.
[06:05] * null sets mode -b *!*@*.desm.qwest.net
[06:05] <null> mornin accident
[06:05] <null> just finnished makin a few phonen calls
[06:05] <Dilpo> welp im off to see the wizard
[06:05] <null> lol ok
[06:05] <Dilpo> gnight
[06:05] morning null
[06:06] <null> Busy tormenting all the Copelands in Desmoines
[06:06] <null> I love callin people up at 6am or whatever time it is there
[06:07] <null> Updating gentoo manually
[06:11] lol
[06:14] * fez has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
[06:24] <TsTech> I'm the only Copeland in Des Moines that I'm related to.
[06:27] * Tim has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[06:29] <TsTech> I actually live 30 miles away from DSM. I'm at my workplace.
[06:37] * Beska (Beska@cpc2-clif3-3-0-cust31.nott.cable.ntl.com) has joined #lobby
[06:37] Anyone alive?
[06:39] * Beska has quit IRC (Quit: .)
[06:39] <Hellwrath> Hi Ben
[06:39] <Hellwrath> Bye Ben
[07:00] * TsTech has quit IRC (Quit:) |
Quite random for him to just get on my network and tell me that I can't use "his" application. Especially since i've been using it well before he even used the application in the first place. |
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uchat
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| Posted: Jun 27, 2004 9:37am Post subject: |
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| I'd either ignored him .. or tell him to sue me (of course refusing to give any of my personal info) .. depending on my mood. |
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Dirty Debra
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| Posted: Jul 09, 2004 9:03pm Post subject: |
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| Get a grip sliq. I'm sure he wasn't being serious. |
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sliq
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| Posted: Jul 09, 2004 9:44pm Post subject: i know |
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| I know that, im good friends with him, but he was being serious at the time |
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JohnB
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