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iigor Newbie

Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Toronto, CA
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Posted: Jul 18, 2003 3:28pm Post subject: IRC: dead or alive? |
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or at least it says so.. hmm :lol:
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moonman Lurker

Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 212
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Posted: Jul 19, 2003 12:36am Post subject: |
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you're like the crazy old grandpa that tells a long, winding story leading to...
nothing. |
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iigor Newbie

Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Toronto, CA
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Posted: Jul 19, 2003 10:20am Post subject: |
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Actually, i did have a point.
I spent lots of time on the network and channel i loved and when it got closed IRC died for me... and I know it died for many others as well. So my point is that you can't say IRC is always alive since for some it is dead . I realise the story is long and prolly boring sorry if you wasted your time reading it. |
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ed SearchIRC Staff

Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 367 Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted: Jul 19, 2003 1:33pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, It would be rather hard for IRC to die. One IRC server or network may close, but that doesn't mean IRC has died. Move on. Check out other networks. |
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Ghent Guest
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 1:32pm Post subject: uh |
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U Eleet

Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 521 Location: IRC
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:36pm Post subject: |
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If your favorite network dies, there may be a death of IRC-but not really. IRC isn't going anywhere, the fact that SearchIRC indexes 900 networks (though most are probably under 500 users) shows that fact.
However, if some of the BS keeps up, I could see "major" irc dying-it takes massive sponsorship and/or a bunch of people who are willing to get along to keep a major network going nowadays-and since some people are intent to just mess with networks all of the time, its harder and harder to get bandwith donated, the costs for it will just keep going up.
IRC isn't going down without a fight though, I can guarentee that. |
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Jason SearchIRC Developer

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 1160 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:41pm Post subject: |
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hehe. I like this topic.
Here's some info:
According to SearchIRC's about page:
| Quote: | Aren't there other channel listing websites already?
When SearchIRC was started, the only thing close to us was (the now defunct) Liszt IRC. The problem was, their listings were always outdated. It wasn't uncommon to see listings six months old. |
Check out Liszt's stats: http://searchirc.com/img/liszt.jpg
Now, before you start laughing, check out the first SearchIRC's stats:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010405013501/http://searchirc.com/
"Search 120969 Chatrooms on 48 IRC Networks"
Naturally, we didn't have all the networks (I required networks to have existed >6 months, have >100 users and no forced joins to any channels), but you can see from looking at the old archive page that IRC has changed quite a bit in the last few years... and it's progressed in every direction except for growing smaller :)
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U Eleet

Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 521 Location: IRC
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:44pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure with 48 servers only indexed, it was easy to see merges, dropouts, and inconsistancies with entries.
You've gone from 30 mins maintance a day to an 8 hour full time job  |
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Jason SearchIRC Developer

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 1160 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:46pm Post subject: |
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There were quite a few small networks, but I doubt if there were even half as many as there are now. Networks did merge and do other things that would require updates, but no where near the pace that they do currently.
Right now, I'm wishing I had a staff of at least 12 well trained monkeys to do the updates on this site. |
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iigor Newbie

Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Toronto, CA
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:50pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure many monkeys would love to help this site..  |
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Mary SearchIRC Admin

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 692
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:54pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, U, its even more than one full time job. We figured we would add the networks and then put in a few hours every week making updates. HA. They keep coming... and coming... and merging and recombining and renaming themselves! I put in an 8 hour day and I am always several days behind. Jason spends hours every day working on networks and channel changes and additions, and Ed says it takes him three hours every day to keep the Network Status page up to date. |
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Mary SearchIRC Admin

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 692
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:56pm Post subject: |
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| 12 well trained monkeys, huh? You can't AFFORD well trained monkeys! :p~ |
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Jason SearchIRC Developer

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 1160 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:57pm Post subject: |
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| Thats why you guys are helping out. |
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iigor Newbie

Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Toronto, CA
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 6:58pm Post subject: |
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Do you get paid for your job or is it just a hobby?
I dont see many ads on SearchIRC however any other owner/admin would probably want his work to be paid.
However, it must feel great to be an admin on the best IRC web site.  |
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Jason SearchIRC Developer

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 1160 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Jul 20, 2003 7:06pm Post subject: |
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I have a full time job, and it's NOT SearchIRC :P
If you add up the cost of the servers, the dedicated T1, the cisco routers, UPS, kvm's, etc, I've spent well over $20,000 USD on the SearchIRC project since inception.
There are a few small banners on the top of some pages (Google's AdSense), but I'm basically just testing them out. I personally dislike ads.
On the other hand, if a small number of ads on SearchIRC can make SearchIRC pay for itself (e.g; users must click on them since it's pay-per-click), then that will ensure that SearchIRC will remain around for a long time to come :)
I try not to make a big deal out of the ads though, and make sure they're not intrusive. The goal for SearchIRC is to be an IRC resource, not a cash cow. |
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