Opening an IRC Server

LIQUID_NiTrO · Guest

OK, so I made friends with this guy and now I found out he owns a company which offers server hosting, and he says he can get me a major discount on a T2 IRC Server, but before I start paying for this stuff, I'd like to mess around a bit and find out a little bit about being a Server Admin so I don't make a fool of myself after the server is linked.

If I am correct I should be able to do this by connecting to 127.0.0.1, however it gives me the Connection Refused error when I try to do this.
This doesn't surprise me and I know what it means, but the problem is I don't know how to solve it...

Bottom Line: How do I open port 6667?

LIQUID_NiTrO · Guest

By the way, I am using Windows XP Home.
I know this is not a good choice for a server, but that will be taken care of before it is linked; I just want to play around a bit before I do this

If it is just impossible to open port 6667 on this OS I can use RedHat Linux, but I'd really, really, prefer not to.

Guest · Posted: Apr 06, 2004 8:36pm Post subject:

Wow, lets slow down there a second! Discount... on an IRC server? Most of the IRC servers you see (including all the big ones, DALnet, EFnet, Undernet, etc.) all run free software. If they are able to run stable networks on free software, what makes you think your network, which my guess is going to start out with far less than 50000 users needs to pay for the server software? Unfortunately though, for Windows, your choices are somewhat limited. Most of the IRC servers are for UNIX/Linux systems. However, several options are still available to you. I'd personally suggest www.unrealircd.com but I'm a bit biased seeing as how I'm one of the authors of that software.

That's the first thing. Second thing is, you can't just go and connect to port 6667. You need to install server software first! It's not built into Windows. If you are connecting to 127.0.0.1, which is the local address, there is no need to "open" any ports because you're already on the local machine, everything is open to you. Once you setup the software, you can just do /server 127.0.0.1 and you're connected.

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

I believe the term 'discount' is related to the shell account he would need to run the server from .. not the IRCd it's self.

Jason · Posted: Apr 07, 2004 7:32am Post subject:

A T2 sounds powerful.

DjMadness- · Newbie Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 70

for windows there is bewareircd and Unrealircd for windows, the only thing thats good enough is UnrealIRCd.

for linux i recomend an Bahamut based ircd, but UnrealIRCd is also fine.

I recomend that you set up a linux server for the IRC software, and even for the hosting, it will be much more stable, and the same opitunity´s + alot more.

This would also reqire that you poke your head in the *NIX world.

since i have used *NIX i will never go back, considerate this as a downgrade Razz

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Good luck, and wow, thats a nice Connection Wink

most of our network runs it on T1 and smaller.

a T1 can handle about 500~1000 depending on what ircd u use.

DjMadness- · Newbie Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 70

doh, i did not read it correctly, sry

LIQUID_NiTrO · none Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 34

Thanks guys, but just to clear things up, I'm getting the discounts on the T2, not the IRCd software or anything like that.

This is my fault probably for leaving out too much information, I wrongly assumed you would take it for granted

I already have UnrealIRCd and mIRC installed. I am already an IRCop on one server, but I have not been Server Admin and I don't want to make as much a fool of myself as I did when I first became an IRCop.

I am not starting a network, but a server. The network has already accepted my link app, I just want to familiarize myself with things before they do it.

All I really need to know is how to allow myself to connect to 127.0.0.1 using mIRC; here is what I get when I try /server 127.0.0.1:

* Connecting to 127.0.0.1 (6667)
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* Unable to connect to server (Connection refused)
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* Cancelled connect

I don't believe I have any firewalls running, however I do have Norton Antivirus if that might interfere with it.

Thanks guys Smile

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

if you get a connection refused, one of 2 things is happening.

1.> your IRCd is not running on the specified port (in this case 6667)
- To fix this, edit your ircd's conf file to allow the use of port 6667.

2.> your IRCd isn't running at all.

Thrall · none Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 34

There is another possibility.

If you're running behind a router or a network, you'll have to connect to your computers IP.

example: 192.168.1.2

If you're behind a router, you'll have to set up port forwarding for other people to connect to it.

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

By using 127.0.0.1 you won't have to depend on any other interface to use the IRCd .. This is a great way to test/debug IRC Scripts. Especially in you have dial-up, you won't need to be connected to the internet to do it.

It shouldn't matter which interface is used, unless the IRCd/Services was poorly coded.

LIQUID_NiTrO · none Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 34

That's interesting, because my IRCd is running and configured to port 6667, I am not behind a router or network, and I still can't connect.

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

I'll see if I can replicate your problem and help you get past it.

I'm on irc.u-chat.org as katsklaw if you'd rather talk there.

UPDATE:

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* Connect retry #7 127.0.0.1 (6667)
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[Misc] *** Looking up your hostname...
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[Misc] *** Couldn't resolve your hostname; using your IP address instead
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[Misc] *** If you are having problems connecting due to ping timeouts, please type /quote pong FCC2C931 or /raw pong FCC2C931 now.
You have not registered
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Welcome to Nfinate Loop v1.1.0-Beta for mIRC6.14 katsklaw
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Your server is seeing.u-chat.org, running version Unreal3.2-RC2fix
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This server was created Sun Mar 7 23:26:47 2004
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seeing.u-chat.org Unreal3.2-RC2fix User Modes: iowghraAsORTVSxNCWqBzvdHtGp Channel Modes: lvhopsmntikrRcaqOALQbSeKVfMGCuzNT
MAP KNOCK SAFELIST HCN MAXCHANNELS=10 MAXBANS=60 NICKLEN=30 TOPICLEN=307 KICKLEN=307 MAXTARGETS=20 AWAYLEN=307 are supported by this server
WALLCHOPS WATCH=128 SILENCE=15 MODES=12 CHANTYPES=# PREFIX=(qaohv)~&@%+ CHANMODES=be,kfL,l,psmntirRcOAQKVGCuzNSMT NETWORK=U-Chat CASEMAPPING=ascii EXTBAN=~,cqr are supported by this server
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There are 1 Users and 0 invisible Users on 1 servers
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I have 1 Users and 0 servers
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Users THIS server: 1 Max: 1
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Users ALL servers: 1 Max: 1

Works fine for me. I'm on Win XP Pro.

My listen lines (aka P:Lines) look like this:

listen 127.0.0.1:8067;

listen 127.0.0.1:6660;
listen 127.0.0.1:6661;
listen 127.0.0.1:6662;
listen 127.0.0.1:6663;
listen 127.0.0.1:6664;
listen 127.0.0.1:6665;
listen 127.0.0.1:6666;
listen 127.0.0.1:6667;
listen 127.0.0.1:6668;
listen 127.0.0.1:6669;
listen 127.0.0.1:7000;
listen 127.0.0.1:7001;

kat

Jason · Posted: Apr 08, 2004 3:05pm Post subject:

Guest · Posted: Apr 24, 2004 4:09pm Post subject:

most ircds default to listening on all interfaces

but yes if an interface is explicitly specifed it should not listen on any other interface as well (incluseing loopback)