Network consolidation effort

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: A box!

There are thousands of tiny networks on IRC. I think it's time an effort was established to consolidate the networks forming a larger network.

There are some principals of this endeavor that I must state however.

First, every entity involved in this effort is equal. Nobody will be dominant over the amount of users or servers they have on their network.

Second, quality over quantity is what matters. The behaviour of the users matter, not the quantity of the users/servers. Abuse cannot be tolerated.

Third, everyone has to agree on the issues before anything happens. At present, this is only a discussion to see who might be interested in working on such an initiative.

I have preferences toward EFnet ircd's (hybrid, ratbox, csircd) and DALnet ircd's (bahamut, NOT dreamforge). Unreal may be considered if valid arguments are made. (The services argument does not work. Services can be ported.)

At present, the network I am on runs a modified version of hybrid-7.0.1 called ShadowIRCd... again, this would also be a preference on my part.

None the less however, the software and policies involved would have to be voted on and discussed.

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: A box!

Oh one more thing. Please note that this is not a request to be taken over by a larger network. That is not my intention. (I do not take kindly to hostile takeover attempts.)

I have also set up a forum that can be explicitly used for discussing this at http://www.nenolod.net/phpBB2/ Smile

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

how would this differ from a merger? (which I'm sure most would not want)

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: A box!

A merger would involve being swallowed up into a larger network... i.e. their is a dominant group involved.

Under this scheme, everything would be started out from the beginning. The goal here is to make a network with solid philosophies and staff behind it's operation. Smile

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: A box!

Oh, one last thing too... anyone interested can contact me via IRC @ irc.nenolod.net. Just ask around for nenolod.

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

I like the "starting fresh" idea .. but IMHO people that start networks do so because they are unhappy with the net they are on. Mebbe it's a power thing ... mebbe no one can decide what software to use ... what policies to enforce. This way the person starting the network can do what they feel is right.

I'm not opposing your idea, just concerned of it's outcome.

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: A box!

Like i said, there are presently problems on the network I am involved with and as of late it has gone to chaos, therefore i think it might be good to start new with determined policies and software.

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

Perhaps the irc-ag would be interested in this idea. I feel they may need a centralized place to gather.

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: A box!

Contact me in #newnet on irc.nenolod.net, that's where i think we will be discussing this endeavour... also pass that on to anyone else who might be interested.

U · Eleet Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 521 Location: IRC

This isn't a new concept, and since you're the one with the idea, I would guess you would be the one in overall control.

In that case, its still a merger.

nenolod · Idler Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: A box!

Incorrect. I dont want control of any of this... control would have to be spread equally... Smile

Horizon · Posted: Mar 27, 2004 12:32pm Post subject:

With network policy's being vastly different from network to network.. I feel there would be no real way for everyone to come to a concencus as to what network policy would be and the direction to take the network.
U is right, this is not a new idea and it will never work.

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

60 years ago breaking the sound barrier wouldn't work either.

Horizon · Posted: Mar 27, 2004 1:56pm Post subject:

uchat · Idler Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 335

no, I was refering to the closed minded "will not work" comment.