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twiggz
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 Posted: May 09, 2008 4:22am Post subject: Why does this part of the forum exist anyway? |
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| If so many of you including the website admins are so against warez why are you letting people post their opinions of it....furthermore why is every thread here been locked regardless of it being positive towards warez or negative? Hypocrites. You are all FBI. Damn Pigs. |
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greg27
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| Posted: May 09, 2008 5:54am Post subject: |
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judging by the description of this forum, i'd say it's mostly an anti-warez thing. but that's just my opinion.
also, i think you'll find that old threads are locked automatically. look through any forum here and you'll see that all the old threads are locked. |
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twiggz
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What happened to the "chat" in Internet Relay Chat? Is Warez changing the landscape of IRC?
That looks like two questions to me, not any sort of anti-warez/negative statement about warez. The description asks if "Warez changing the landscape of IRC?" for one, to answer that..yes it is..and there is truely nothing anyone can do to stop it no matter how much they hate it. Second.... "What happened to the "chat" in Internet Relay Chat?" People still chat on networks that condone warez, Im on them all the time chatting. That description is in no way indicitive of being ANTI WAREZ. |
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Katlyn
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| Posted: May 09, 2008 9:02am Post subject: |
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| twiggz wrote: | What happened to the "chat" in Internet Relay Chat? Is Warez changing the landscape of IRC?
That looks like two questions to me, not any sort of anti-warez/negative statement about warez. The description asks if "Warez changing the landscape of IRC?" for one, to answer that..yes it is..and there is truely nothing anyone can do to stop it no matter how much they hate it. Second.... "What happened to the "chat" in Internet Relay Chat?" People still chat on networks that condone warez, Im on them all the time chatting. That description is in no way indicitive of being ANTI WAREZ. |
Seriously - go cry somewhere else about your apparent obsession with warez. |
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twiggz
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| Posted: May 09, 2008 10:15am Post subject: |
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| Atleast you didnt deny that I have a point. The description doesnt even imply that the Warez forum is ANTI-WAREZ. |
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ButtaKnife
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| Posted: May 09, 2008 12:18pm Post subject: My two cents. |
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Actually, the description implies that warez is changing IRC away from chat to something completely different. My impression is that the forum's intent is to enable philisophical discussions about the impact that all of the warez networks has on IRC and its public image. I would not classify that as hypocrisy. If you don't like a certain kind of food, do you ban any kind of discussion about that food from your website/IRC network?
Warez is a big problem for IRC. I would say that warez directly, but not exclusively, contributes to the script kiddie infestation. Also, the rampant software piracy is harming local and global economies. Now, I'm not a fan of Vista's price tag, which is why I won't buy it. On the other side of the coin, though, I really like Battlefield series of games and I happily purchased Battlefield 2 (in addition to 1942, which I already owned) when it came out. Likewise, I purchase any games that I want to play full versions of. Why? If a company makes a good piece of software, and no free similar titles exist to duplicate the functionality, that company should be compensated for their effort. This is especially true for games, since companies generally don't go around duplicating other companies' games.
I'm sure that many people have pirated software. For those that wise up to how the world actually works, piracy is theft and is frowned upon. In most cases there are open-source alternatives that are usually better, anyway. If you're pirating games, well, shame on you for being inconsiderate of others. This type of selfish attitude has done more harm than people realize.
So, to the OP: your "point" seems to be that you glossed over what the forum description actually said and stapled your own agenda over it. Forgive us if some of us don't take too kindly to your warez-friendly attitude. |
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greg27
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| Posted: May 10, 2008 3:11am Post subject: |
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| twiggz, before you go and attack me, please re-read my post - i clearly said "but that's just my opinion". am i not allowed to have an opinion? you clearly are, so i guess i'm just a lesser human being. i apologise for whatever grief or inconvenience my existance may have caused you. |
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twiggz
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| Posted: May 10, 2008 4:02am Post subject: |
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| Dont flatter yourself by thinking any internet person could cause me grief. And if you read another one of my posts, I did mention that I am here to voice my opinions just as you are.....I dont care if you anti-warez people agree with them or not......it would look better for the website if there wasnt even a WAREZ forum to begin with because of its very vague description that doesnt imply that its about being ANTI WAREZ. |
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PingBad
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| Posted: May 12, 2008 6:23am Post subject: Re: My two cents. |
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| ButtaKnife wrote: | Actually, the description implies that warez is changing IRC away from chat to something completely different. My impression is that the forum's intent is to enable philisophical discussions about the impact that all of the warez networks has on IRC and its public image. I would not classify that as hypocrisy. If you don't like a certain kind of food, do you ban any kind of discussion about that food from your website/IRC network?
Warez is a big problem for IRC. I would say that warez directly, but not exclusively, contributes to the script kiddie infestation. Also, the rampant software piracy is harming local and global economies. Now, I'm not a fan of Vista's price tag, which is why I won't buy it. On the other side of the coin, though, I really like Battlefield series of games and I happily purchased Battlefield 2 (in addition to 1942, which I already owned) when it came out. Likewise, I purchase any games that I want to play full versions of. Why? If a company makes a good piece of software, and no free similar titles exist to duplicate the functionality, that company should be compensated for their effort. This is especially true for games, since companies generally don't go around duplicating other companies' games.
I'm sure that many people have pirated software. For those that wise up to how the world actually works, piracy is theft and is frowned upon. In most cases there are open-source alternatives that are usually better, anyway. If you're pirating games, well, shame on you for being inconsiderate of others. This type of selfish attitude has done more harm than people realize.
So, to the OP: your "point" seems to be that you glossed over what the forum description actually said and stapled your own agenda over it. Forgive us if some of us don't take too kindly to your warez-friendly attitude. |
Exactly my thoughts on the matter, Buttaknife - I interpret the "Warez" forum to be a discussion about warez and not a forum in which to advertise warez on your network. |
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Safer_Sephiroth
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| Posted: May 12, 2008 12:15pm Post subject: Re: Why does this part of the forum exist anyway? |
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| twiggz wrote: | | If so many of you including the website admins are so against warez why are you letting people post their opinions of it....furthermore why is every thread here been locked regardless of it being positive towards warez or negative? Hypocrites. You are all FBI. Damn Pigs. |
As others have said, the forum is meant as a discussion and debate area over warez and what good or bad it brings to IRC. When discussions get ugly, the threads tend to be locked, or if they are old threads it happens as well. Just having a forum about it and how people feel regarding it seems to be an open-minded thing. That doesn't make people hypocrites.
Some people like it and others think it is wrong. I won't even go to a network that supports warez because not only is some warez wrong to me (not all) but the networks themselves are a mess because of all the bots, script kiddies that show up testing out things, viruses, lack of chat and it's just not a good atmosphere. If you like warez, that's your choice, of course and both sides if courteous should be able to voice their opinions. That is the reason for this place, as ButtaKnife said. |
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