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Anarchy Lurker

Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 206 Location: Cabot Arkansas
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Posted: Mar 09, 2008 8:10pm Post subject: IRCx Section |
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IRCx section thats what we need, i dont care if im going to be the only one posting in there but thats what we need or i need lol |
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katsklaw Guru

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1099
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 8:01am Post subject: |
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No other ircd protocol has it's own section, why should IRCx be so special. Yes, IRCx is an ircd protocol.
So you are not confused, IRC in IRCx and in IRCd mean the same thing. Internet Relay Chat.
ON IRC there are 2 protocols in play, 1 is basically the client protocol as described by RFC1459 and the server protocol, which defines what features, modes and abilities the daemon it's self has, this includes how the daemons communicate to each other when linked together.
IRCx is an extension of IRC, but so is any other IRC daemons protocol. The daemon protocol is what IRCx uses to define all it's lovely features, that is no different than any other daemon.
There is no such thing as IRCx and all other daemons are called IRCd .. IRCx servers are daemons too. IRCd is nothing more than a term that means IRC Daemon and it refers to ANY IRC Server .. not all IRC Servers except IRCx.
If you wanted to get technical about it IRCx is not the only daemon with IRC extensions. ALL modern IRCd's are extensions of the original IRC protocol.
Unreal
Bahamut
ircu
CR
hybrid .. etc
They all have extended the IRC functionality. IRCx is no the only one. However, unlike IRCx and CR are closed source IRCd's and server admins can not expand the protocol any further. With regular IRC daemon software that are Open Source, like Unreal, the protocol can be extended to do nearly anything within reason. Which is a huge advantage other IRCd's have over IRCx.
What that means is that you can name any IRCx feature and there is another IRCd that has the feature or can have the feature after the IRCd's coding team writes it in. Unfortunately, you can't do that with IRCx. |
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Anarchy Lurker

Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 206 Location: Cabot Arkansas
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 9:16am Post subject: |
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| hmm oddly theres alot of open source IRCx servers out there.. just not for public download yet... but we are getting there |
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katsklaw Guru

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1099
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 10:08am Post subject: |
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| Anarchy wrote: | | hmm oddly theres alot of open source IRCx servers out there.. just not for public download yet... but we are getting there |
That still doesn't change my point that IRCx is still a daemon like any other IRCd and that it's not so special that it deserves it's own section. |
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PingBad Guru

Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 2031 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 2:25pm Post subject: Re: IRCx Section |
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| Anarchy wrote: | IRCx section thats what we need, i dont care if im going to be the only one posting in there but thats what we need or i need lol | rolls eyes*
So an IRCx section you ask for? okay then why not an IRCd section? oh wait, they *ARE* one and the same thing: IRC servers. As katsklaw has stated, IRCx is nothing more than microsoft-engineered-proprietary extensions upon RFC1459. IRCds just happen to be open source extensions upon the same rfc (for the most part). |
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Jason SearchIRC Developer

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 1185 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 4:28pm Post subject: |
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| Are you guys hating on Comic Chat? Don't hate it, it was awesome. I remember laughing my ass off at people using it. |
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Jobe Idler

Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 368 Location: Lurking in the shadows of some random channel!
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 4:50pm Post subject: |
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Comic chat was funny if only because puting faces to names made it so much more amusing.
He he
You can still use it on regular IRC servers, only they dont filter out the extra crap that goes to non-ircx users |
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PingBad Guru

Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 2031 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mar 10, 2008 9:39pm Post subject: |
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| Jason wrote: | | Are you guys hating on Comic Chat? Don't hate it, it was awesome. I remember laughing my ass off at people using it. | Admittedly, I still use the Comic Chat (client) from time to time if only for the nostalgic value |
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Jason SearchIRC Developer

Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 1185 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Mar 11, 2008 4:54pm Post subject: |
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When I first saw people using it, I thought they were spam bots or something.
They kept saying (#@3409238409238409823) crap, and then asked dumb questions. I don't recall if I started to ban them from channels or not, but it wasn't till later when I tried out the client that I understood.
Those poor people thought we looked like lame cartoon characters. |
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katsklaw Guru

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1099
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Posted: Mar 11, 2008 8:10pm Post subject: |
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| Jason wrote: | When I first saw people using it, I thought they were spam bots or something.
They kept saying (#@3409238409238409823) crap, and then asked dumb questions. I don't recall if I started to ban them from channels or not, but it wasn't till later when I tried out the client that I understood.
Those poor people thought we looked like lame cartoon characters. |
The way to cure that is ask the user to switch to text mode only. |
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PingBad Guru

Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 2031 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mar 11, 2008 8:57pm Post subject: |
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| Jason wrote: | When I first saw people using it, I thought they were spam bots or something.
They kept saying (#@3409238409238409823) crap, and then asked dumb questions. I don't recall if I started to ban them from channels or not, but it wasn't till later when I tried out the client that I understood.
Those poor people thought we looked like lame cartoon characters. | Yeah, I know what you mean... then I picked up on the parsing format of those kinds of messages and had my script automatically filter them out (as well as create my own so I look like a half-decent character at their end ) |
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Anarchy Lurker

Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 206 Location: Cabot Arkansas
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Posted: Mar 15, 2008 3:00pm Post subject: |
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| i still use comic chat... and the VR chat client thing too lol |
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