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Anarchy
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2007 1:42am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was running a network, ive always had way better luck on my own servers then renting out a server.
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pawlicki
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2007 4:42pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

PS. The dual Xeon 3Ghz with 2TB ram and 200000000000GB Of monthly bandwidth that you're promised is a sales pitch. You would be lucky if you get a Xeon machine working for you, and believe me, on most hositng companies, it would be shared between thousands of users.

Any linux box above 100Mhz is more than enough to keep 400+ users. (x server turned off of course, all cli) on irc.

I also agree withthe guy above me: i would rather run my own then rent.
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Anarchy
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2007 11:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renting out servers is pretty stupid if you ask me, most hosting companys are on DLS and Cable these days. claiming to be on t1 t3 connections. i had 1500 people on a cable connection, hosting my own web site, with web chats and forums, never lagged. i had over 2 year up time on a cable connection, and windows 2003 and windows 2000 running IRCx servers.
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Lord_Diablo
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2007 12:53pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm... even a warez net doesnt use THAT much bandwhitdh, when i first started I was saying the same thing, but in truth, IRC doesnt use that much bandwhitdh. Safe not to have to many users on each server, the text bit probally doesnt matter much, unless you do have 837489326473264 warez bots running at all times. (Which is a complete waste of server space anyway)


But in overall, you probally dont need 2kgb worth the bw. As for providers, !@#$'d if i know. They all suck now =P
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2007 3:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would a warez network use more bandwidth than any non-warez net with the same user count? dcc is direct client to client, hence data transferred doesn't go through the irc server.
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2007 4:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greg27 wrote:
why would a warez network use more bandwidth than any non-warez net with the same user count? dcc is direct client to client, hence data transferred doesn't go through the irc server.


Some think that the files transfered are sent on the servers bandwidth, which if course is false. DCC = Direct Client Connection, it's called that for a reason .. that's because the ircd makes the connection and then the 2 clients talk DIRECTLY!! ;P

Some think that the users that spam their server text to channel every 10 minutes wastes bandwidth. This is actually true to a certain degree, a 100 user warez channel spamming each user 1 time every 10 minutes can create a tiny bit of traffic and it could be argued in SOME cases that it uses more bandwidth than a 100 user active chat channel. I personally disagree, but I CAN see the logic in the claim. In either case it's a moot point since we are still only talking a few bytes per second. Yes, that's right I said BYTES! .. not kbytes, mbytes, gbytes or tbytes ... but BYTES!

Just my $0.02.
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Keiji
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2007 5:38pm    Post subject: Re: How much bandwidth... Reply with quote

Keiji wrote:
I am about to purchase a dedicated server, but I need some kind of idea how much bandwidth it will take for around 600 users, lets just say---

- 600 users per day. (Very talkative users, almost every channel I have had on my last server talked continuously night on end)
- I plan on running, a couple eggdrops (Including: trivia bot, channel bot, proxy scan bot)
- Anope services, unrealIRCd and denora stats

As I said, this will be everyday, I plan on having quite a few active users on this server, I am looking to buy a server with around 2000GB bandwidth on a 100mbit connection...

If possible, I would like a couple suggestions on where I should buy this dedicated server at...


I honestly don't know how much bandwidth I need. I hope 4 irc shells can handle 50,000 different people each week, and around 500 on at one time, possibly even more than that on weeknights and weekends. Soon we might be receiving 3,000 people and up, if this game wants all their users to join in-game chat. Beyond me how much bandwidth will be needed.
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Katlyn
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2007 11:22am    Post subject: Re: How much bandwidth... Reply with quote

Keiji wrote:
Keiji wrote:
I am about to purchase a dedicated server, but I need some kind of idea how much bandwidth it will take for around 600 users, lets just say---

- 600 users per day. (Very talkative users, almost every channel I have had on my last server talked continuously night on end)
- I plan on running, a couple eggdrops (Including: trivia bot, channel bot, proxy scan bot)
- Anope services, unrealIRCd and denora stats

As I said, this will be everyday, I plan on having quite a few active users on this server, I am looking to buy a server with around 2000GB bandwidth on a 100mbit connection...

If possible, I would like a couple suggestions on where I should buy this dedicated server at...


I honestly don't know how much bandwidth I need. I hope 4 irc shells can handle 50,000 different people each week, and around 500 on at one time, possibly even more than that on weeknights and weekends. Soon we might be receiving 3,000 people and up, if this game wants all their users to join in-game chat. Beyond me how much bandwidth will be needed.


Our servers average 1.5-2k users at any one time and we pull roughly 10-20GB/day per server - 2000GB would be more than plenty for the figures you quoted..
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ircmojo
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2007 2:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's funny, DALnet is running 35k users and uses 300kbps. Why is your load so high?
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bubblez6000
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2007 3:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely it is the IRCd that is taking up the bandwidth as I know where Katlyn comes from they are currently using Unreal3.2 as I don't often visit dalnet only been there once I do not know what they are currently using
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ircmojo
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2007 3:43pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bahamut. It's a no frills IRCd, unlike UnrealIRCd.
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Anarchy
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2007 5:49am    Post subject: Re: How much bandwidth... Reply with quote

Katlyn wrote:
Keiji wrote:
Keiji wrote:
I am about to purchase a dedicated server, but I need some kind of idea how much bandwidth it will take for around 600 users, lets just say---

- 600 users per day. (Very talkative users, almost every channel I have had on my last server talked continuously night on end)
- I plan on running, a couple eggdrops (Including: trivia bot, channel bot, proxy scan bot)
- Anope services, unrealIRCd and denora stats

As I said, this will be everyday, I plan on having quite a few active users on this server, I am looking to buy a server with around 2000GB bandwidth on a 100mbit connection...

If possible, I would like a couple suggestions on where I should buy this dedicated server at...


I honestly don't know how much bandwidth I need. I hope 4 irc shells can handle 50,000 different people each week, and around 500 on at one time, possibly even more than that on weeknights and weekends. Soon we might be receiving 3,000 people and up, if this game wants all their users to join in-game chat. Beyond me how much bandwidth will be needed.


Our servers average 1.5-2k users at any one time and we pull roughly 10-20GB/day per server - 2000GB would be more than plenty for the figures you quoted..


thats alot of porn for one day
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Katlyn
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PostPosted: Dec 24, 2007 11:47am    Post subject: Re: How much bandwidth... Reply with quote

Anarchy wrote:
Katlyn wrote:
Keiji wrote:
Keiji wrote:
I am about to purchase a dedicated server, but I need some kind of idea how much bandwidth it will take for around 600 users, lets just say---

- 600 users per day. (Very talkative users, almost every channel I have had on my last server talked continuously night on end)
- I plan on running, a couple eggdrops (Including: trivia bot, channel bot, proxy scan bot)
- Anope services, unrealIRCd and denora stats

As I said, this will be everyday, I plan on having quite a few active users on this server, I am looking to buy a server with around 2000GB bandwidth on a 100mbit connection...

If possible, I would like a couple suggestions on where I should buy this dedicated server at...


I honestly don't know how much bandwidth I need. I hope 4 irc shells can handle 50,000 different people each week, and around 500 on at one time, possibly even more than that on weeknights and weekends. Soon we might be receiving 3,000 people and up, if this game wants all their users to join in-game chat. Beyond me how much bandwidth will be needed.


Our servers average 1.5-2k users at any one time and we pull roughly 10-20GB/day per server - 2000GB would be more than plenty for the figures you quoted..


thats alot of porn for one day


If you don't have anything sensible to post then why post at all? None of our users are xdcc/porn bots, and no such content is allowed on the network.

Not all semi-large networks are warez networks.
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katsklaw
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PostPosted: Dec 24, 2007 12:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not that it matters anyway Katlyn, the porn doesn't pass over your server anyway .. so nevermind the clueless post.

The ONLY thing IRC has to do with DCC is establishing the connection .. period .. end of story .. we are talking a few bits of data. ALL the bandwidth required to send movies/warez/porn is handles by the CLIENT not the server. Thats why it's called a Direct CLIENT Connection.

Those that think that a 500MB warez file uses 500MB of the servers resources is grossly misinformed as it takes the exact same amount of data to send a 1k file as it does a 1TB file as far as the irc server is concerned.
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