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mthwgrn
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2007 6:22pm    Post subject: PingBad comment Reply with quote

I was wondering if you could remove the comment PingBad (I think he's a mod) made on my network announcement. The topic is Chat-Way (no irc address) and the announcement wasn't a help wanted but a user request. I did not violate any rules and don't appreciate him putting this is a spammy message under my post. It's a disgrace to my network as we DO NOT spam what so ever.

How am I supose to abide by a rule that isn't even there?
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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2007 12:01pm    Post subject: Re: PingBad comment Reply with quote

mthwgrn wrote:
I was wondering if you could remove the comment PingBad (I think he's a mod) made on my network announcement. The topic is Chat-Way (no irc address) and the announcement wasn't a help wanted but a user request. I did not violate any rules and don't appreciate him putting this is a spammy message under my post. It's a disgrace to my network as we DO NOT spam what so ever.

How am I supose to abide by a rule that isn't even there?


Posting 3 announcements in 2 days is pretty much spam. Looking at your other posts around the forum, you seem to attack anyone with an opinion that you dislike.

Please remember spam is in the eye of the beholder NOT the person spamming. What one persons definition of spam is may be entirly different from anothers. Some consider spam to be unsolicited, others consider repetition of the same thing to be spam.

http://searchirc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=6287
http://searchirc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=6286
Both same content, the only difference being the Title. And then one of them was only 10 minutes after the other in the SAME board too.

Then followed by http://searchirc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=6298 doesnt exactly help your case.

Bearing in mind, in the first 2 cases you broke the same rule "No spamming in the subject line" ( http://searchirc.com/forum-rules.php )
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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2007 7:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, I construed 3 network announcements to be spam, and as I replied to the OP via PM, one network announcement per month should be sufficent. I felt that the most recent announcement was an update upon the older 2 announcements and therefore moved the elder 2 to the hidden deleted posts forum.

That being said, I have honored the OP's request for me to remove my comment and have thus removed my comment (I did not intend to insult you personally or your network - and I do wish you good luck with the success of your network.)
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Stefano
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PostPosted: Dec 14, 2007 10:44am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats wise
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PostPosted: Dec 14, 2007 3:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I disagree with Jobe's definition of spam. I must agree with how it applies in this instance.

Spam has a unified definition and even if you don't agree with it's definition, most users and governments do agree with it and laws are passed based upon it as well as spammers imprisoned based upon it. Which will make that unified definition far more "official" than any single persons definition.

By Jobe's example, it's the recipients definition that counts. If that was the case I can scream "spammer!" anytime someone says "hi". That's no where near an accurate or workable definition.

A more official and wider accepted definition* is:

spam (n.) Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.
spam (v.) To send unsolicited e-mail to.

* American Heritage Dictionary.

I believe that the afore mentioned thread DO violate the forum rules simply because the subject contains the network name, which if i remember correctly can only appear in the subject on the Network Announcements forum.

My biggest problem with the threads is they are in the wrong forum, rule violating subject and then the poster felt the need to quote rules to those that tried to help him/her.
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PostPosted: Dec 17, 2007 12:03am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the thing is, the threads in question were indeed in the Network Announcements forum (thus network name in the thread title is allowable) - it's the quantity of it in the short space of time that led me to go down the "spam" route.
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PostPosted: Dec 17, 2007 2:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HaHa! Sausage fest! Sounds like a anti male cult. Meh... Should probally shut up now =) LOVE YOU GUYS! Cool
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katsklaw
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PostPosted: Dec 17, 2007 3:58am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PingBad wrote:
the thing is, the threads in question were indeed in the Network Announcements forum (thus network name in the thread title is allowable) - it's the quantity of it in the short space of time that led me to go down the "spam" route.


the 2 threads I refered to were not and still are not in Net Announcements nor are they even on topic for the forums they are in. Wink
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PostPosted: Dec 17, 2007 5:01am    Post subject: Reply with quote

katsklaw wrote:
PingBad wrote:
the thing is, the threads in question were indeed in the Network Announcements forum (thus network name in the thread title is allowable) - it's the quantity of it in the short space of time that led me to go down the "spam" route.


the 2 threads I refered to were not and still are not in Net Announcements nor are they even on topic for the forums they are in. Wink
Well then, I stand horribly corrected
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