"Special" net

braindigitalis · Idler Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 443 Location: IRC

This network, aside from spamming itself about 5 times in network announcements (see here) now has its opers going around other networks spamming channels.

In my opinion networks such as this one should not be allowed on searchirc.

PingBad · Guru Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1982 Location: New Zealand

Spam is the tool of the desperate lol - and that one must be desperate...

Watchdog · none Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 9

As a server owner who gets people logging in and spamming their servers at all hours of the morning I can understand the frustration and I agree that there should be some sort of punishment for these people however how does one verify the accuracy of a complaint? I'm not calling anyone a liar but it is too easy to hand-type a false log file and then paste it here or anywhere and because of this the easy methods of complaining about it are subject to abuse by people who are not so well-meaning.

If someone has an idea of how we can get around the problem of vexatious complaints then I'd be happy to hear about it.

Having said that, why people log onto networks that have fewer than 100 users and ask them all to join their own network is something I can't understand. Why try and ruin the viability of networks whose owners are happy with the size of their community and whose owners don't go around causing grief on other networks?

RyanWenke · none Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 31

A network where you can make your own channel?!?! Count me in!

Jason · Posted: Oct 05, 2007 6:03am Post subject:

When SearchIRC was new, we actually delisted a few networks from schemes that involved faked logs, and people pretending to be from a network in order to gain access and mess up their information on SearchIRC.

We've now been around the block a few times and don't react to stuff like this because it can be so easily faked in order to get a network delisted.

Of course, it could well be real, but by removing it because of evidence like this, we'll get a flood of fake evidence that would look exactly the same and there's really no easy way tell which is which.

mthwgrn · none Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 28

Why not look into it and if it even remotely seems false then don't consider it but you should beable to find some evidence. ask for channel logs from admins or whatever necessary. ban them from searchirc

Mary · SearchIRC Admin Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 691

mthwgrn, most things on SearchIRC are the result of trial and error - and we do change things if they don't work.

If a user reports a network has three users and 3,000 bots, it is pretty easy to prove right or wrong. However, logs of people spamming are another matter entirely. There is no way for us to determine if they are authentic, and if even if they are provided by someone we all respect and have an almost 100% chance of being true, we can't prove if it was the admin of the network in question or someone impersonating him.

Plus, we had to ask ourselves, where do we draw the line? We don't approve of spamming, of course - but if we delist networks that spam, shouldn't we also refuse new submissions and delist networks that have policies or channels that don't meet with our approval?

So as it stands now, only if a network does something that makes the information SearchIRC supplies incorrect or misleading - such as redirecting their IP to a large network, or loading bots to appear higher in the rankings - will we refuse to list or index them.

The rest, caveat emptor.
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katsklaw · Guru Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1029

bubblez6000 · Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 60

As mentioned on this post what would you say the max is for the amount of "Service bots" before you delist or something?

As for the spamming it happens, it has happened to my network at we have A) banned them for spamming and B) spamfiltered it

Mary · SearchIRC Admin Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 691