Is IRC Getting Smaller?

intempo · Newbie Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 73

Paltalk is lame ass s***

Stefano · Eleet Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 523 Location: Beirut

iv used once palktalk for an hour it seamed to be cool to me

PingBad · Guru Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1993 Location: New Zealand

Why does IRC get all this bad publicity though? The short answer really is this: It's the minority f**king it up for the majority.

All the media sees and hears about is some pimple infested 13 yr old kid using an IRC channel buried on some network to command some bots in there to DDoS (say) microsoft.com - and they hear it often enough. But thats all they hear about. The media doesn't even know about the good sides of IRC because of all these script kiddiots constantly popping up on the radar. Thus, the media assumes that if all they ever get to see or hear about in regards to IRC itself is these kids, then the entire IRC protocol is "evil" by design. Kinda spits in the face of the hundreds of thousands of people on IRC (at any given moment) chatting - doing exactly what the protocol was designed for.

ircmojo · Posted: May 23, 2007 4:21pm Post subject:

Jobe · Posted: May 24, 2007 7:00am Post subject:

Never mind the USA, the ratio of bad to good news, no matter where you are, is usually having 10 times as much bad news as there is good news.

The media simply DONT care about the good things in this world and to be honest I think thats wrong of them.

Nofilicity · none Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 2

It might be getting smaller, but really, in my opinion, every person is starting up their own IRC server, and quitting old ones. So instead of several large networks there are many small ones.

However, I may be wrong on this. Very Happy

DevilDacay · none Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 16

nope ur right i use to use dalnet until i managed to set up my own irc as well irc.blitzx.net then me and a huge group of frineds left dalnet and just started using that :-\ but its a shame bigger networks that were once awsome and full of great chatters had to split up in to tons of smaller servers eventually all servers will link and grow once again and ull see a whole new list of larger networks such as zIRC has been growing now for years and theres no dought in my mind it will eventually be one of the largest

Lost-Soul · none Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 1

I think irc is getting smaller and in my personal opinion it's due to there being so much censorship and curruption among staff of irc.

bctrainers · Newbie Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 65 Location: kansas city

SATAN-HHH · Eleet Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 843 Location: Texas

I agree with lost soul. Corruption is a big part of the decline of irc, as well as irc networks that are poorly managed and ran. I don't believe censorship persay but the attempt to get rid of illegal filesharing has also been a part of the causde for this decline. Dalnet is proof of that point.

ircmojo · Posted: Jul 23, 2007 1:10pm Post subject:

Currawong · none Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 2

As well as corruption and instant-messaging, IRC is still extremely primitive, having never advanced from basic text chat. When I first started on IRC 12 years ago, it was using Ircle on a Mac, which had audio streaming and video streaming! As well, the client had "Faces" and "sounds". We used to all trade what people now call avatars and made sure that everyone had the channel sound set which we could call on everyone with a command to emit a sound. Whenever we kicked people, the sound of a shotgun would go off on everyone's computer!

The problem is that, excepting for Mac Ircle users above, other than the coloring of text, nothing else advanced in IRC. If anything, it went backwards.

If I could code, I'd want to create an IRC server that could handle HTML input from clients, with ports for new clients and old, the latter stripping out the HTML for backwards compatibility. Paltalk takes care of audio streams to multiple people, but has the absolutely worst interface and lack of options of anything I've seen, itself very backwards to the IRC-like system it originally copied.

So, overall, IRC simply offers far too little and there are few who are making any effort to advance things.

ircmojo · Posted: Aug 23, 2007 7:29pm Post subject:

intempo · Newbie Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 73

ircmojo · Posted: Aug 24, 2007 5:53pm Post subject:

never said it did.

My entire point is that IRC can infact be like most IM's with the proper client. By that I mean it can handle smilies, streaming video, streamign audio, user profiles, web interfaces etc .etc .etc. Just that hardly any clients even try. I can create an entire drawn out detailed specification as to how it could work and perhaps even do a few protocols for some of these features, but it won't make a hill of beans unless there is atleast 1 popular client out there that is willing to support it, most of which can be handled with little or no IRCs or irc protocol changes.

Sorry if I confused you.