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Calum
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Joined: 10 Nov 2005
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| PingBad wrote: | Callum, why have you (among others) lost interest?
If NetAdmins know whats driving users away, perhaps there's something we can do to retain the userbase we enjoy... |
Hi,
I believe it's personally due to there's nothing new. People leave then others follow. I used to use Quakenet alot but for some reason I feel it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I might be just in the wrong channels though.
I hope/wish there becomes in an increase soon in the amount of users using it. MSN Chat was the best I think - I enjoyed that as a kid, once that went, I used IRC, now what..?
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Crash_ChatNSN
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Joined: 07 Nov 2005
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Location: Little Rock Ar
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| most of the time you kill one packet happy kid, he will till his other packet happy friends and the next thing you know your getting ddos by 2+ people. or one kid got kick and banned out of a channel he decides to DDOs the network. or my Fav, you delink from a server that is causing problems, that server decides to DDOs you. DDOS is over rated. what happen to the good ol days of breaking in to computers and junk you know real stuff. not packet kids flooding. |
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Drakx
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| Posted: Jan 04, 2007 12:45pm Post subject: |
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I think its because it dont take as much effort to DDoS, why waste time trying to break into a computer when you can let some one install some thing which allows some one else to control the computer (DDoS wise anyway) where the computer comes to you.
Sounds easier then trying to break into a computer. |
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Xiphias
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| Posted: Jan 30, 2007 6:17pm Post subject: |
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Well, speaking as, perhaps, an average user who just wandered over here to ask an IRC related programming question I have to say the only IRC channels I visit are ones connection to websites or ones that happened to have caught my notice on the same network as those ones.
So my advice would be to find a sizable website and convince them to start an IRC channel on your network, if you're network is specialising in a certain subject so much the better. Ideally the opening of the channel should accompanied by a big event for the site's community so that the channel starts out with lots of people on at the same time and lots of chat. |
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Lexy
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Having a java chat is useful for those users who don't know how or aren't willling to download and use a chat client.
I've been searching for a new home on an irc network for a chatroom I help host (active channel!) and it's been hard finding the right place. I tend to join a network and check out the channels, talk to people, idle for a few days or longer, trying to get a feel for what the network and staff is like.
One thing I've encountered was like today when I joined a network and was idling in a secret channel that I created was having a network administrator join the channel. When questioned if that was normal policy for that network, I was told that he auto-joined all channels on the server. While I understand that net admins can pretty much do what they want, I can tell you this - it's a no-no in the places I've been and I've been around IRC for many years now.
Another thing that has happened in my search was joining a network and while looking at the /list and trying to decide what channel I was going to join, one of the net admins or owners sent me a pm welcoming me to the network and telling me how they were trying to get new users to the network. This is NOT the way to make people welcome. -
Please -
If you have a network, let people be, welcome them and talk to them when they join a channel, but don't chase them away with your desire to look good or your overbearingness or your powers. Yes, it's your network, but users want to know they can have some privacy as well - and not for any bad purposes, but just plain privacy. I just wanted to see what it was like and didn't want to feel watched, pressured or patronized.
Please, let your chatters be.
Thanks. |
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NightWing{s}
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| Posted: Mar 26, 2007 3:33pm Post subject: Re: What Makes A Network Good For Chatters? |
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| amac wrote: | Thanks for your responce it was a great post.
What web based services do you offer or what do people think should be offered by new networks? Forums? Java Chat? any thing else?
Regards,
Amac
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Having had my network up for over a year now, i find that java is required although with my network seldom used. I did not have it to start with but got many requests for it. Also I would recommend publishing on a website your rules, policies and disclaimers. This will prevent arguments as to what your rules are; another thing, that maybe usefull in some applications, is some form of message board.
Just my thoughts
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NightWing{s}
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| Lexy wrote: | Another thing that has happened in my search was joining a network and while looking at the /list and trying to decide what channel I was going to join, one of the net admins or owners sent me a pm welcoming me to the network and telling me how they were trying to get new users to the network. This is NOT the way to make people welcome. -
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We specificaly tell all our ops/admins not to do that, is an op is needed the user will look for one. However our ops are in the rooms but chattin and having fun. On our message board we do publish all the rules, policies and disclaimers as well as basic user commands, the server chain of command and many other things that are of benefit to chatters.
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Stefano
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| Im glad to see that almost everyone gives great advices, great "theories" because when it comes to practice, many got messed up networks |
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ircmojo
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| Posted: Apr 11, 2007 1:37pm Post subject: |
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| Lexy wrote: | Having a java chat is useful for those users who don't know how or aren't willling to download and use a chat client.
I've been searching for a new home on an irc network for a chatroom I help host (active channel!) and it's been hard finding the right place. I tend to join a network and check out the channels, talk to people, idle for a few days or longer, trying to get a feel for what the network and staff is like.
One thing I've encountered was like today when I joined a network and was idling in a secret channel that I created was having a network administrator join the channel. When questioned if that was normal policy for that network, I was told that he auto-joined all channels on the server. While I understand that net admins can pretty much do what they want, I can tell you this - it's a no-no in the places I've been and I've been around IRC for many years now.
Another thing that has happened in my search was joining a network and while looking at the /list and trying to decide what channel I was going to join, one of the net admins or owners sent me a pm welcoming me to the network and telling me how they were trying to get new users to the network. This is NOT the way to make people welcome. -
Please -
If you have a network, let people be, welcome them and talk to them when they join a channel, but don't chase them away with your desire to look good or your overbearingness or your powers. Yes, it's your network, but users want to know they can have some privacy as well - and not for any bad purposes, but just plain privacy. I just wanted to see what it was like and didn't want to feel watched, pressured or patronized.
Please, let your chatters be.
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This is awsome stuff! Lexy, you should come visit us at irc.ircmojo.net We are very small .. just starting out. But our policies match your expressed fellings exactly.
Please, if you don't mind, read this thread: http://searchirc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=5728 You will see that we do match as far as expectations.
One thing I've found is less and less admins keep up with traditional practices like staying out of channels affairs. I think the most abusive thing we do is we allow ircops to see +s/+p channels and some IRCOps can gain ops in any channel if needed. This is in the rare event that a user *is* doing something bad. Those caught abusing privledges are usually fired and all abuse reports are handled by the network founder personally and retribution is often swift against the oper. I really think your expectations and our goal matches perfectly.
See you around. |
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