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katsklaw
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| fattony wrote: | | uchat wrote: | | Not all networks want to be the size of DALnet. |
Not to sound insulting, because that's not my goal, but my observations have told me that most networks that say that are just trying to make an excuse as to why they're small. |
Your observations do not and can not apply to everyone. There are always exceptions to everything. Personally I find your conclusion in your observations ignorant and unfounded. To assume that everyone that matches a given pattern act/think/are alike is a sign of a lack of understanding in the subject. This is where stereotyping, profiling and racism exist.
Personally I don't want my network to be huge. My goal is between 6000 and 10000 users. I have a small network, I know I do .. and I'm not ashamed of it. We are small for several reasons, but our goals is not one of them. |
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fattony
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| Posted: Jul 10, 2006 12:51pm Post subject: |
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| katsklaw wrote: |
Your observations do not and can not apply to everyone. There are always exceptions to everything. |
Thank you for the obvious statement, hence why i said "most" not "all".
Edit: Also, I highly doubt that my observations of IRC networks will lead to racism or any other stereotyping, it's just IRC -- there's no reason to get all up in arms like you're fighting some major struggle against stereotyping.
To assume that everyone in a given pattern is the same is an ignorant thing to do, but they are indeed within the same pattern so only an ignorant white guy from the suburbs trying to show he isn't like the bad white guys would go out of his way to prove the point that he doesn't profile, isn't racist, etc.. by claiming everyone else is doing that or supporting it by talking about damn IRC networks.
Shut the !@#$ up. |
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MrBurns
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Location: Netherlands
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| Posted: Jul 13, 2006 4:00am Post subject: |
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I R having small netwurk
I R still being bettur then st00pid weezul
I R not wanting big netwurk
I R wanting to keep netwurk small so I R not having to work to hard
I R laizee |
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XrOo
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Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Jul 21, 2006 8:52am Post subject: |
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I'm quite sure some of you already knows about this.
However for does who doesnt, please let me inform you that soon enough IRC Networks will hopefully work through a P2P Protocol instead of the old standard most networks uses today.
The idea is to create a P2P library that allows anyone to customize and modify the source to their own needs, example, creating an IRC Daemon that runs via P2P. This would eliminate netsplits and also improve lots of other things, which I guess most experienced IRC Network owners/admins knows of.
That's all from me.
Cheers! |
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MrBurns
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| Posted: Jul 22, 2006 3:26am Post subject: |
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| Note the word "hopefully" |
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XrOo
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| Posted: Jul 22, 2006 5:34am Post subject: |
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Yeah, hopefully! 
It's far too complicated to explain but however, it sure would be nice with a network that never has any net splits, although the biggest security risk would be sniffers, even if the traffic would be encrypted it could also be decrypted, leading to holes where people can "enter".. anyways, let's see how it goes.. |
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PingBad
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| Posted: Jul 23, 2006 12:16am Post subject: |
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| XrOo wrote: | | although the biggest security risk would be sniffers, even if the traffic would be encrypted it could also be decrypted, leading to holes where people can "enter".. anyways, let's see how it goes.. |
Well, it's no different to the current encryption networks employ between servers. There will still be the same holes, the same "entry points" and the same risk of a packet sniff |
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ARcanUSNUMquam
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| Given time, all encryption can be broken. However, the point of encryption is to make it so time consuming to break that it just isn't worth it. Want to spend a decade or two with NSA's supercomputers to decode somebody's IRC transmissions? I doubt it. |
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magpie
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Location: Essex, UK
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| It's not like it's worth trying to sniff unencrypted IRC communications anyway... |
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FuRiOuS
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| But OMG there might be great secrets being shared that the hackers just must know about! If we don't let them find out, what are they going to do with their freetime? Read a book? Go to school? OMG the world would come to an end. |
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FBI
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| Posted: Jul 23, 2006 3:08pm Post subject: |
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| FuRiOuS wrote: | | But OMG there might be great secrets being shared that the hackers just must know about! If we don't let them find out, what are they going to do with their freetime? Read a book? Go to school? OMG the world would come to an end. |
Theres a big difference between ''hackers'' and ''script kiddies''
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katsklaw
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| Posted: Jul 23, 2006 5:09pm Post subject: |
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| fattony wrote: | | katsklaw wrote: |
Your observations do not and can not apply to everyone. There are always exceptions to everything. |
Thank you for the obvious statement, hence why i said "most" not "all".
Edit: Also, I highly doubt that my observations of IRC networks will lead to racism or any other stereotyping, it's just IRC -- there's no reason to get all up in arms like you're fighting some major struggle against stereotyping.
To assume that everyone in a given pattern is the same is an ignorant thing to do, but they are indeed within the same pattern so only an ignorant white guy from the suburbs trying to show he isn't like the bad white guys would go out of his way to prove the point that he doesn't profile, isn't racist, etc.. by claiming everyone else is doing that or supporting it by talking about damn IRC networks. |
Ok you did say most and not all .. my bad. However, to use the term "white guy" in your scenerio IS racist, a persons ethnic background has nothing to do with it .. even in your example. Since the event in your example happens everywhere for all ethnic groups and not just "white guys".
you first. |
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LindyM
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| Posted: Aug 26, 2006 4:16pm Post subject: |
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| I think you get out of a network what you put into it... I am thankful for admins on starlink-irc.org who work so hard to keep our network "just right" and keep that family oriented atmosphere going. Good channels, good people who chat and keep the network safe |
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VNCX
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| Posted: Sep 05, 2006 8:13pm Post subject: |
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| FBI wrote: | | FuRiOuS wrote: | | But OMG there might be great secrets being shared that the hackers just must know about! If we don't let them find out, what are they going to do with their freetime? Read a book? Go to school? OMG the world would come to an end. |
Theres a big difference between ''hackers'' and ''script kiddies''
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Damn straight |
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time_bandit
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| Posted: Nov 30, 2006 7:47am Post subject: |
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| DOOMISTS! IRC will be around for a long time to come ... |
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