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nenolod
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PostPosted: Nov 03, 2005 7:00pm    Post subject: Looking for Atheme testers for upcoming 0.3 release Reply with quote

We're looking for Atheme 0.3 testers. We need people to run Atheme SVN as of this Sunday and report bugs they encounter. 0.3 is the result of our latest development cycle, and is the last cycle before the 1.0-RELEASE cycle.

The 0.3 cycle is about to finish up, so again, we need people to run SVN starting this Sunday when the 0.3 tree freezes except for bugfixes.

For those who do not understand what Atheme is, Atheme is a modular IRC services system (like Anope), which allows for the implementation of custom services as well as the included ones. Unlike Anope, we support code modification of Atheme (and will even attempt to help networks looking for a custom solution), and distrubute Atheme under a liberal open source license.

A notable feature of the 0.3 release will be completion of our XMLRPC interface. Smile

Other differences between Anope and Atheme are outlined on the Anope wiki -- http://wiki.anope.org/Other:ComparisonChart.

If you're interested in Atheme, you can contact us via IRC at irc.atheme.org, #atheme or visit our website at http://www.atheme.org.

Thanks Smile

--nenolod
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GeniusDex
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PostPosted: Nov 04, 2005 9:32am    Post subject: Re: Looking for Atheme testers for upcoming 0.3 release Reply with quote

nenolod wrote:
Unlike Anope, we support code modification of Atheme (and will even attempt to help networks looking for a custom solution), and distrubute Atheme under a liberal open source license.


Let me make clear, to avoid confusion, that Anope is spread under the GPL, which is a completely valid open source license.
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PostPosted: Nov 04, 2005 2:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other:ComparisonChart.
From Anope Wiki

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PostPosted: Nov 04, 2005 3:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try: http://wiki.anope.org/Other:ComparisonChart
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PostPosted: Nov 05, 2005 5:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I would love to use your services in my net, I have 2k users.

But I currently have Auto Voice/AOP/SOP/CF system, beside I disabled the IRC nick registeration, and I only allow the nick registeration via the web.

Do you have Multi Languages support?

I use MySQL 5.0.15 in FreeBSD.

my ircd is bahamut 1.8.4.

Let me know what do you think.

Thanks,

-A
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nenolod
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PostPosted: Nov 05, 2005 2:02pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for Atheme testers for upcoming 0.3 release Reply with quote

GeniusDex wrote:
nenolod wrote:
Unlike Anope, we support code modification of Atheme (and will even attempt to help networks looking for a custom solution), and distrubute Atheme under a liberal open source license.


Let me make clear, to avoid confusion, that Anope is spread under the GPL, which is a completely valid open source license.


The GPL is valid; yes, but that's not even the point. It is also not a liberal license by any means; the GPL is a complicated license Razz.


Your channels rules state:

Quote:

* We don't support modified versions.

Modify the sources and you'll lose support! It's not that we love our code and don't want you to change it. Let me quote a short part from UnrealIRCD's FAQ:

We don't support modified versions because we can no longer be sure if any bug is caused by us or by you. It's easy to make a tiny mistake in C which causes memory corruption and can screw everything up. You can imagine what our reaction is after (an) hour(s) of debugging just to find out it's caused by your modifications!

An example _might_ be the vhost patch for hybrid ircd. One or two users have reported banning issues with this patch. Now we don't know whether we have a bug or whether the vhost patch screws our banning routines with virtual and real hosts/ips. If you think there's a bug in anope, reproduce it on a clean version (without modules).


This is the fundamental difference that I was trying to get across.
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nenolod
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PostPosted: Nov 05, 2005 2:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Hello,

I would love to use your services in my net, I have 2k users.

But I currently have Auto Voice/AOP/SOP/CF system, beside I disabled the IRC nick registeration, and I only allow the nick registeration via the web.

Do you have Multi Languages support?

I use MySQL 5.0.15 in FreeBSD.

my ircd is bahamut 1.8.4.

Let me know what do you think.

Thanks,

-A


We support all of the above besides multi-lang, which is slated for the 1.1 release.
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GeniusDex
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PostPosted: Nov 05, 2005 3:08pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for Atheme testers for upcoming 0.3 release Reply with quote

nenolod wrote:
The GPL is valid; yes, but that's not even the point. It is also not a liberal license by any means; the GPL is a complicated license Razz.


I just wanted to avoid any confusion about people who might think that Anope was not open source. I didn't want to argue on any of the other parts of your posts, so i don't know why you started defending those.
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nenolod
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2005 1:16am    Post subject: Re: Looking for Atheme testers for upcoming 0.3 release Reply with quote

GeniusDex wrote:
nenolod wrote:
The GPL is valid; yes, but that's not even the point. It is also not a liberal license by any means; the GPL is a complicated license Razz.


I just wanted to avoid any confusion about people who might think that Anope was not open source. I didn't want to argue on any of the other parts of your posts, so i don't know why you started defending those.


Oh, ok. Smile
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2005 10:15am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

I noticed there is no nick enforce option in your services, so anyone could use my nick without ID to NS when I'm offline.

Not providing such feature is a bad thing IMO.

User should have some privacy and prevent others from using his/her nick.

All famous services have this feature as you know.

Good luck,

-A
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nenolod
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2005 3:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's being worked on actually.
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2005 5:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nenolod this is really Great!

One more thing, keep the settings more flixble, let us have more control over services via services.conf.

Like changing the Services nicks, who is able to use /os trigger akills , jupe ..etc.

-A
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PostPosted: Nov 18, 2005 10:17pm    Post subject: Administrators Guide where arth thou? Reply with quote

Forgive me for being daft but where is the Admin guide
for the current version i must be impaired cos i can't find it?

Next silly question where and what on earth do i call the conf file?

Those points are as clear as mud atm shall keep searching
as otherwise all looks top notch can't wait to get it running.

Beats dopey anopes arrogant efforts.

And Auspice might aswell have fallen of the face of the earth
and Unrealircd should have your services listed for win and linux
i wouldn't have bothered with the others Smile

Matter of interest for the sake of newbies like me what other options are there and where can we learn more?

Oh oops and i'm running win32 version so how do i get this best going
wrote the conf now sitting here twiddling me thumbs Smile?
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nenolod
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PostPosted: Nov 18, 2005 11:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not entirely sure if the Windows build works anymore. Very bad things happened electrically to me recently, and as a result I lost my Windows build host. The latest binary was compiled using MingW cross compiler on a FreeBSD host. I've recieved mixed reports of success with it.

In reality, we need someone to maintain the Windows port. It is a very daunting task, and I have way too many projects to do the job properly. The other Atheme developers are unfamiliar with Windows development for the most part, except for Terminal (who is also the main developer behind Bersirc 2.).

Also, we don't support running Atheme on Windows officially at this time. I don't run Microsoft products, and neither should you.
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nenolod
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PostPosted: Nov 20, 2005 2:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears that Jamie has taken over the Windows port. This is a very good thing for Windows users, as he probably cares more about them than I would.

Details are available at http://watheme.atheme.org.
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