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Eleet
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 Posted: Nov 29, 2003 10:58am Post subject: |
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Note to this person and anyone else wishing to set up bots to sit in channels and monitor conversations:
I am the owner of ForeverChat IRC network and I request your bots not be placed onto my network, as my users do not wish this information to be harvested from my network. So please do not load your bots onto my network. This includes the domains foreverchat.com, net, org, us, ws, biz and info, as well as any other domains that may be pointed to my network in the future for any reason.
Thank you very much.
Joshua
FCIRC Owner and Founder
Note to everyone else:
Thats all that all of you need to do-tell him to not do it, if he doesn't have any networks to put the bots on, then his experiment will fail, and if there is a network that does want them, fine, let them announce that and he can go there, I for one don't want my network probed. All of our networks are private and we can dictate what we want to connect to them, and what we DON'T want to connect to them. We have the right to do so-the networks are ran on servers we either fund or have legal responsibility for. If they don't listen, then you have the right to akill them, and they cannot force you to remove them, bottom line is the network belongs to whoever pays for the servers on it, and they have the right to ban whoever they wish, and if you don't have that right in your AUP, its probably a good idea to add it-most AUP's I have seen include such a provision. |
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[al5001]
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| Posted: Nov 29, 2003 11:13am Post subject: |
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Alright let's forget about the domain name for now.
What makes you think a university is going to give someone a masters degree for doing research about IRC? Like what I am saying is this guy is irrational. It would be like as if I said I am going to go to college to learn how to read a book. |
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Eleet
Joined: 18 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Nov 29, 2003 4:04pm Post subject: |
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Keep in mind everyone: You don't HAVE to allow anyone onto your network, that includes these bots  Doesn't matter what the source.
And unlike alot of things I have seen (such as the do-not call list) I think its proper for these people to obtain permission BEFORE putting such bots on someone network, not doing it and then removing them at the networks request. |
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modernboy
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Joined: 30 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Nov 30, 2003 12:21am Post subject: |
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| [al5001] wrote: | Alright let's forget about the domain name for now.
What makes you think a university is going to give someone a masters degree for doing research about IRC? Like what I am saying is this guy is irrational. It would be like as if I said I am going to go to college to learn how to read a book. |
Thank you for conceding the domain name issue, that's not even part of the problem. In fact, Irchiver is a research project under CoSco http://cosco.hiit.fi a company working on the Helsinki Institute for Information Technology http://www.hiit.fi campus, which is an independent acedemic institution. HIIT itself is a joint project of the University of Helsinki http://www.helsinki.fi/english and the Helsinki University of Technology http://www.hut.fi/English . It is unclear how involved the universities are in this project, certainly their research ethics entities have yet to be informed.
Even if this is applied toward Tuulos' academic work, it isn't, as you say, about a degree researching IRC. The project is about the analysis and theory involved in developing code for searching large volumes of dynamic data of a specific source. A search function that could produce a feature similar to what DayPop WordBursts http://www.daypop.com/burst do for weblogs would be helpful. It may not be immediately obvious that this could be possible on some of the networks you visit but, if you knew FreeNode irc://irc.feenode.net , you'd know, as Tuulos does, that the quality of the conversation there is very informative. Unfortunately, Tuulos wants to create something more commercial like the ChatScan debacle this link , and he wants to do so with little regard for the varied levels of privacy this violates. Do you want ads in your channel? How do IRC network users convince their network owners and admins that this is not the way to go? |
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Sanja
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| Posted: Mar 02, 2004 12:13pm Post subject: |
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| You guys are wondering that Finnish boy can't spell some English words, and most native English speakers can't spell their own language. So what if he misspelt "privilege", I've seen so many native speakers who can't spell that word, I've seen a lot of different versions and actually only a few people spell it correctly. |
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Sanja
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| Posted: Mar 02, 2004 12:17pm Post subject: |
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| And just for your information, that Finnish guy writes much better English than most of the native English speakers I've seen. |
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| Posted: Mar 02, 2004 12:45pm Post subject: |
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| Come on, you guys are looking for that Finnish boy's mistakes, you better check your own English skills! Look at that guy Asmo or whatever his name is, he can't spell anything right, and I know he's a native speaker because he makes those typical mistakes that no foreigner would make (you're/your, to/too etc.) and he can't even spell "definitely". |
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| Posted: Jul 08, 2004 10:12am Post subject: |
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| [al5001] wrote: | I have seen many users on IRC from universities. For one thing, ALL university hostnames end in either .edu or .edu.country.
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Your hostname is irchive.it.hiit.fi. Wheres the .edu? shouldn't it say *.edu.fi at least? ALL universities have "edu" in their hostnames. Not one doesn't have it. |
FYI, HIIT is like the MIT of Finland, and Finland has a different domain registration policy than the US.
| Quote: | A masters degree from anything related to IRC is totally wrong. I should consult some professors about this and give them a good laugh.
I have also chatted with many other university students.
NONE of them have ANY spelling or grammatical errors like you do:
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It's clear that you're not college educated and you have absolutely no grasp on the concept, so I don't know what you're trying to accomplish with all of these wise-ass remarks. You don't know any professors.
Oh, and here'a hint: English is most likely his second language. His grammar is better than yours. You do know the difference between grammar and spelling, don't you? |
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| Posted: Jul 08, 2004 10:17am Post subject: |
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| Anonymous wrote: | | Come on, you guys are looking for that Finnish boy's mistakes, you better check your own English skills! Look at that guy Asmo or whatever his name is, he can't spell anything right, and I know he's a native speaker because he makes those typical mistakes that no foreigner would make (you're/your, to/too etc.) and he can't even spell "definitely". |
Don't forget their/they're/there. That's my favorite. |
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| Posted: Jul 08, 2004 3:46pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | Come on, you guys are looking for that Finnish boy's mistakes, you better check your own English skills! Look at that guy Asmo or whatever his name is, he can't spell anything right, and I know he's a native speaker because he makes those typical mistakes that no foreigner would make (you're/your, to/too etc.) and he can't even spell "definitely". |
Don't forget their/they're/there. That's my favorite. |
*late reply*
Um.. Actually, English is NOT Asmo's first language. Ask him yourself or do a little research before posting claims like that. Get your facts right please
Thanks.. |
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Willaim
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Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 242
Location: IRC
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| Posted: Aug 07, 2004 12:03am Post subject: |
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Uh yea..
I am a valid representative of the WikkedWire IRC Chat network. I do not wish any bots that log any kind of info, except from searchirc.com and netsplit.de, to log on to my network. So do not include me in this "thesis"
This includes the following domains:
wikkedwire.com
wikked.us
freejavachatrooms.com
freejavachats.com
wikked.org
Thank you.
-William
WikkedWire IRC Administrator |
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hypnetric
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Joined: 07 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sep 02, 2004 11:43am Post subject: |
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lol. This is just a few kids trying to feel important by developing and running these bots. Just let them, and if you see their bots, ban them. We all need to do something to feel important. Some run an IRC network, some run spam bots to be intrusion on networks. Best of luck to the IRChiver Team!
Yours sincerely,
hypnetric |
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