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58% |
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| Ultimate |
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16% |
[ 4 ] |
| hybird |
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4% |
[ 1 ] |
| other (see post) |
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20% |
[ 5 ] |
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| Total Votes : 24 |
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Julio[joking]
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 Posted: Apr 15, 2004 6:36am Post subject: About the al5001 antispam |
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About the al5001 antispam
Yes, the antispam was good years ago. I see this antispam too. Of course I include in the last versions when I was linking with Phanton too, in the antispam for ircd some of their tools, but is less than the 10% of the new set.
al5001 you are free of download and use, it's opensouce, but please don't delete the credits of others developers. They know how do a good job too.
And don't worry for invites, my own network it's only a place for develop and release or test. I haven't real users, only developers.
Sincereslly
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Julio[teaching]
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| Posted: Apr 15, 2004 3:04pm Post subject: About C or C++, and spam in other codes |
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Yes that some version is compiling in C++ and not in C. But what joke is this. In the time of the Bahamut develop the C++ compilers don't have full develop. Unrealircd is compiling in my case, the Windows versions, with VC++ compilers and Visual Studio tools. Can have code typing in all the languages programs that someone want.
So sorry in the open souce jobs profesional too. When they was compiling CR, I was teaching C/C++ in IBM.
C++ have the full set of C, and I can compile all their code in the same compiler, and much of their is open. The most modern version of the same code are in the unrealircd proyect.
About services ircu. This is the list.
IRC server (IRCD) name services module
Bahamut 1.4.25 - 1.4.34 bahamut
Chunky Monkey IRCD 1.0 and above monkey
DALnet (ircd.dal) 4.4.13 and below dalnet
DALnet (ircd.dal) 4.4.15 and above dreamforge
Dreamforge (ircd.dal 4.6.x) dreamforge
ircd-2.8.x rfc1459
ircd-2.8.x+TS8 ts8
ircu (Undernet) 2.9.x undernet-p9
tr-ircd 4.0, 5.0 and above trircd
UltimateIRCD 2.8.1 dreamforge
UltimateIRCD 3.0.0 bahamut
Unreal 3.1.1 and above unreal
And the people of ircservices, know better than anyone the line.
And about antispams:
/* Anti flood protection */
anti-flood {
nick-flood 3:10; /* 3 nickchanges per 10 seconds (the default) */
};
This is the config file
What Value they have free
Julio
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JulioBell[tired]
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| Posted: Apr 16, 2004 12:01pm Post subject: tired of comments about what is IRC |
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al5001 Im tired that u ever speak about CR, why don't do SearchICR and let me rest.
Yes I probe ur version, like I probe, dancer, unrealircd, Bahamut, Ultimate, Modrigan, Hybrid7 ...
And only ur stupid company give me problems ...
Develop more, for me u aren't more IRC and Im not going to work for to be compatible with u ...
It's ur job if u want stay in the list to be compatible with us
JulioBell
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rakaur
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| Posted: Apr 16, 2004 2:00pm Post subject: |
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There are so many claims in this thread with zero foundation it's hard to tell where to even start. I especially like the "<insert lameass ircd here> is the best ircd!" ones. Why? Because they have a kadzillion features? No one bothers to mention that most "Unreal-like" features use a metric shitload of CPU. They're nice on RAM, but in real life servers usually have CPU limitations, not memory limitations. ratbox (which uses considerably more RAM than most ircds) only uses around 600mB with 300k users and most servers have well over a gB total. I never saw the point in going from static to dynamic memory allocation (Unreal, Ultimate) for certain strings as malloc() and friends are very expensive CPU wise. So unless you're using a block allocator (mmap() comes to mind) you're not gaining much.
CR in my experience is more unstable than any open source ircd that I've played with. Built-in services are just not a good idea. If you took an open source ircd and slapped a GUI on top it'd probably come close to CR.
I've seen "I love Unreal because it's modular!" Yeah, modules are nice. However, pretty much every major ircd (bahamut to an extent, unreal, hybrid7, ratbox, csircd, etc) all have support for runtime module loading (even if the source code is not modular by design).
| Quote: | Why would you pay for Windows, when you can get Linux for free?
Why would you pay for Photoshop, when you can get GIMP for free? |
Why is this even posted here? You think the majority of Windows users actually pay for their OS? Same goes for Photoshop. And, you are aware things other than Linux exist right? BSD, Solaris, ...
I really see no topic left in this thread other than opportunity for flaming (which looks to be the aim by the starting post title) because everyone has different opinions, especially about which ircd/os/services/messenger/cpu brand/gpu brand/etc/etc is "the best" and people argue about it as if it is somehow connected to their bodies. If you're going to continue I suggest backing up your statements with reasons so we can actually get a clear idea of why you think something is better than something else because "Unreal is the best!" doesn't tell us a whole lot. |
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ed
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Joined: 25 May 2003
Posts: 367
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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| Posted: Apr 16, 2004 2:25pm Post subject: |
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| rakaur wrote: | Why is this even posted here? You think the majority of Windows users actually pay for their OS? Same goes for Photoshop. And, you are aware things other than Linux exist right? BSD, Solaris, ...
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I was taking a sarcastic view of DjMadness-'s comment:
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why pay for an IRCd when u can get it for free ?
you could modify an ircd to suite your own needs, end even if u want u could just make the same features as CR has. |
But, anyhow, I do believe that quite a few people purchase Windows, whether directly or indirectly. Nearly all of the new computers are sold with Windows preinstalled.
I'm done beating a dead animal. |
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Julio[agree]
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| Posted: Apr 16, 2004 6:50pm Post subject: Im agree with the last comments |
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Yes, Im very agree with the last coments, of course that I pay for software too. Im runing a Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition, that is a Microsoft Operating System. The server webmaster.webchat.org, is runing over Linux.
Yes the star company of Windows IRC Servers for Lammers is runing their servers over a GNU/Linux System.
About the use of memory, yes I use DDR memory in a Windows 2k3 Enterprise, and the server of IRC that acomodate best to this fuction is Unrelircd 3.2. So good developers, if I need recomend to someone what version of IRC Server run over a Windows 2003 Datacenter, Im very sure about what recommend. This isn't that we can't pay, it's that we are developing elite tools with thousands of hands sharing the same code, ...
And if this company is a Bank, Im more sure for his last support SSL.
Companies like IBM use opensouce technology, in their clusters servers over all platforms ...
I think that the private companies some times don't know choose the correct staf for post comments in public forums ...
This person use bouncers, can be that they can't pay a permanent internet conection, like a lot of perople that use open souce tools can ...
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Julio [i]
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| Posted: Apr 16, 2004 7:15pm Post subject: Why pay... |
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Why pay, .. yes of course that the people that use open souce can pay, sometimes more than others ...
This is the price of a seminar of 4 days of IBM z/390 ... opensouce
Domino for zSeries & S/390 Performance Workshop (ESM75FR)
Format Sessions planifiées
Duration 4.0 Day(s)
Audience OS/390 System/Performance Analyst
Notes Administrator
Price 2600.00 EUR HT
3109.60 EUR TTC
The CR versions of IRCd have not justicated their price from my point of view. Unrealircd 3.2 must be more expensive ... ty to the opensouce developers.
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Julio[:'-(]
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| Posted: Apr 17, 2004 12:29am Post subject: Im so sad |
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Yes we type in a folder IRCServices
The GNU/GPL new set of standars ...
and I see the new CR over OsX
their folder say ..
CRServices ...
I want cry today for the future of the IRC
:'-(
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Julio[:¡-(]
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| Posted: Apr 17, 2004 12:43am Post subject: Who is the thief ... |
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Who is stolen to who?
Please, ...
It's time to be sincere
The developers of Dalnet Bahamut, are so good profesionals. Im learning a lot reading their job
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| Posted: Apr 17, 2004 1:45am Post subject: |
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| stop trolling and star making some sense!! |
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rakaur
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| Posted: Apr 17, 2004 5:34am Post subject: |
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bahamut 1.4 is actually pretty poorly written. It's based off of hybrid5 which is acient.
Also, it would be nice if you posted once instead of 30 times per second. |
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| Posted: Jul 05, 2004 5:22am Post subject: |
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| al5001 wrote: | Lets get to the point. Running a type of IRCd depends on what you wish to use it for. As I said, conferenceroom has taken measures to put video conference in the software. It is useful for online classrooms, and also if you want mainly java users from a website. You can control spambots and clone attacks by setting the server to java clients only. Yes, be warned, the video conference takes a huge amount of bandwith, which is why it would only work if you charged a profit for users watching the video.
Conferenceroom does mask hostnames with usermode +x so that others cannot see your real hostname/IP. However, my argument was about the fact that on unrealircd (and many other IRCds), the /CHGHOST and /VHOST commands (along with a hostserv service) are often abused, and should never be coded into the IRCd, as well I don't like having any host changing abilities except for opers, which all opers should have the same hostname when they do /oper.
I don't run a cracked version of conferenceroom. In fact, I just use a trial version and check out its abilities.
Every time I go to a network and see someone with a hostname that says:
leet@I-am-leet.leet.h4x0rs.com
Or some crap like that, I get totally turned off. I like the ability to see at least part of the person's hostname.
For opers, I dont mind if I see something like:
admin@=Yhn5Jh.domain.com
Where domain.com is the domain name of the server. Then it is easier to tell who is an oper without having to type /whois nick. |
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Gizmo967
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| Posted: Jul 17, 2004 7:32am Post subject: |
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My vote goes for UnrealIRCd, it's awsom!  |
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Kuja
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| Posted: Aug 05, 2004 1:56am Post subject: |
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| TR-IRCD is the best of (all?) worlds. It has features from Bahamut, Hybrid, and a bunch of it's own features. |
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