Record ACTUAL user count.

Triple_H · Newbie Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 94 Location: IRC

This might not be worth the effort but you don't know how many times I enter networks that are filled with botserv bots. Would it be possible to have scrawl recieve the botlist, and subtract the number of bots from the total user count?

I say this for the following

Networks are ranked higher then they should be. If I am searching for a network with a decent user base, it is annoying to connect and find the majority of "users' Botserv bots/services.

As I said, this probably isn't a issue for many people, but it would be nice to get the user count of a network as precise as possible. Thanks for considering this suggestion.

Jobe · Posted: Dec 26, 2006 5:06pm Post subject: Re: Record ACTUAL user count.

Jason · Posted: Dec 26, 2006 5:17pm Post subject:

Yeah, it's going to be difficult. Also what's the difference between network robots and user robots? Try and figure out how many robots are on efnet... if you can figure out a way, I'll consider implementing it :)

katsklaw · Guru Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1122

Since most networks hide ulined servers, and generally speaking, ulined servers are some form of services server, would it not be possible to calculate the number of users on each server scrawl sees by doing /map on the networks.

This assumes that all ircds would report user count per server in the /map output, I know Unrealircd, Inspircd and hybrid 7 does. Bahamut does not have /map and usercount per server doesn't appear in /links. Adding the user count reported in map is a method that I use to determine as an individual the usercount minus services. It's not always 100% accurate, but tends to be more accurate more often than /lusers is. Scrawl can already know what ircd is used since it reports it, perhaps scrawl can count from /map of those ircds that support it and it;s current method on those that don't

Perhaps it's worth a few minutes of research as far as the plausability of this idea.

Triple_H · Newbie Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 94 Location: IRC

The least you could do I suppose is networks running anope could run a /msg botserv botlist and subtract the number of bots from the total count.

I guess it wasn't very plausable, but I do think looking into ways of indentifying not only botserv bots but "user bots" wouldn't be a bad idea. Perhaps identifying channels such as #warez and #xdcc etc, and then excluding all listings in those channels.

Jason · Posted: Dec 26, 2006 8:45pm Post subject:

unfortunately the reality of the situation is that we have to deal with networks that run any possible version of ircd, and they can do so in many different languages. Many have links and map disabled. We only have one rule - we can't assume anything. Add to it random color codes, control characters, and other stuff people put into the ircd output, and it is sometimes amazing we have any stats at all.

Jobe · Posted: Dec 27, 2006 6:47am Post subject: