Admin system?

]Daniel · Idler Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 317 Location: Boise, ID

Hey guys, after reading a bunch of posts about networks, and seeing there network rank on their little signature. Im curious on how different networks do different admin ranks.

Mine is basically a ton of ranks since we are going to be a gaming portal, but for the irc wise we have:

Department Head
Adminstrators
Staff(IRCops)
and Helpers(helping mode)
Game Support(or Console Helpers)

The other departments have nothing to do with IRC so I choose not to mention them.

Rob_ · Idler Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 309

we have opers, and users.... - i like the simple life :)

magpie · Idler Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 454 Location: Essex, UK

Remove the users and it gets even simpler. :)

XVar · Newbie Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 97

Network Administrators
Services Administrators
Server Admins
Server Co-Admins
Global Opers

Those last 3 basically have the same power, but Server Admins have the responsibility of being the "mentor" for any new opers that they add on their server. There's also various teams for Oper Abuse, Spam, etc. Services Admins are users who have proven that they know what they're doing, are trustworthy, and can keep their cool with retarded users.

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393

Basiclly:

Server Administrators
Services Administrators
Global operators
Local operators
Users

It's the server admin's choice whether to add a user as global, services or local operator.

JohnB · Posted: Jan 19, 2006 9:23am Post subject:

We have netadmins (1 per server linked into the metanet)
admins
ircops
network ops (use services to do extra stuff)
users

BUT, we are all one team, status/titles mean nothing

MOVIEBOT · Lurker Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 229 Location: Poland

Netadmins (4)
TechAdmins (2)
Global Ops (3)
Local (2)
Helpops (5)

XVar · Newbie Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 97

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393

Oh and also...

In the bahamut ircd, a global operator isn't much different than a Services admin. Services admins have /samode access while Global operators don't.

So, there is rarely any oper-abuse that can go on.

Plasma · Newbie Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 63

I run a small irc server (~100-150 people), we just have 3 network admins.

They all have the same level of access, as its just a small network and if a user needs assistance with something, id want to know these opers arent just up for show, but rather have the know how (and access permissions) to help them out.

I can understand sublevel oper levels for larger networks, but for myself its not necessary (we dont really need any opers now anyway, but just a few regulars are around to help with any problems).

Id believe having too many oper levels is way too micromanaged.

mentor · Posted: Jan 21, 2006 3:58am Post subject:

I guess I'll chime in... we have several teams that perform various functions, but as for on IRC...

Server Administrators
IRC operators

Services access, etc is just added responsibility -- it doesn't necessairly denote any rank on the network.

marc · Posted: Jan 21, 2006 7:07am Post subject:

The network I'm linked to does NOT have server/services/network (co)admin. All the operators are the same rank. All the operators have the same flags (or not as the case may be).

The owner of the servers are offered services access, if they know and understand the services.

for a network of 20-30 users, there are 5 operators. Two server owners, two people that know the services better than anyone else. and an oper in another timezone.

If you don't want operabuse, don't give people the 'v' flag in Unreal - or you can disable it in './Config -advanced'.

IRCu is a good server to use for the reason that there is no sajoin,sapart,svsmode,chgident,chghost,chgnick,chgname,operoverride or anything that could be considered as abuse. The only problem is, it takes someone who know's what they're doing to install it, that's why there's not many networks out there with it.

the OPMODE command (SAMODE) can be configured to be enabled or disabled with a modification to the ircd.conf and a rehash. There is no need to have all these extra things. No need to have all the flags. Give everyone the same access and you don't have any bitching for more.

braindigitalis · Idler Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 443 Location: IRC

ChatSpike has several levels of irc operator and non-operator staff. Because of our unique system, involving not just irc but the website too, there is some crossover of privilages between the groups.

Firstly, there are teams, and any person (from helper right up to netadmin) can potentially be on any team if they have the knowledge needed. These teams are for example, a linking team, a routing team, a development team.

Secondly, there are staff 'ranks', at the simplest:

Network Admins (Founders)
Server Admins (All server admins also have services admin)
Global Opers (All global opers also have services oper)
Helpers (See below)

Because chatspike's website provides more than just network information, it requires people to keep it moderated and running. We offer image hosting, quotes database, news posting, rss feeds etc to all users with registered nicknames, and it is a helper's job to moderate this. Helpers are basically full staff members, but ones which do not require irc operator status to get the job done.

We don't usually take a server admin straight on at server admin level, even if they donate a server. All staff must advance from helper, to global oper, to server admin, although, depending on the need they may advance faster than usual. This is to ensure that at each phase of the process we weed out people who cannot be trusted with power, slowly giving them a little more power along with each promotion and judging how they handle it.

It's worked very well for us for almost 4 years now Smile

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393