Janus Link

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 15, 2010 7:05am Post subject: Janus Link

Hey guys, I am a bit of a newbie to janus but I have been working with it for about a week now. I currently have 1 channel linked between my 2 IRC servers. What I am about to state is going to be a test phase for me as I have ideas on how this may turn out to be, but I am hoping its not going to!

I am offering my janus services to you. If you have a channel that you would like to try as a janus, pm me and we can work something out. I am currently only doing unreal links but will add more once i learn how to add the other types of servers. You may also get ahold of me via joining irc.gngirc.com and PMing me(D3M0N OR D_3_M_0_N) either nick, they are both me.

If you do not meet all of the requirements below, I ask of you not to message me as it will be a waste of not only my time, but yours as well.

1: You must be able to speak good english.
2: You must be the owner of the network you are wishing to link.
3: Again, must have UnrealIRCd.
4: Network must be stable.
5: The channel must not be warez relater nor illegal!
6: Your server must listen on port 7005, if its not already!

Please note: This may or may not be permanent as we will test how this goes. I have known janus in the past for other nets to be a total and complete fail but I believe thats because they linked to anyone and everyone that wanted to link.

If you would rather me come to you, i will... just leave your IRC server below and when I check back on this post I will come to your server Wink

Bertrum · Eleet Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 573 Location: Venus

Janus isn't always a failure, take irc.JanusIRC.com for instance, they have like 10 nets Janus linked and run really well, I think it all depends on the admin who is incoorporating the Janus link.

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 15, 2010 9:23pm Post subject:

yea, i know, they are doing very well, but of course they are the main janus operation. And i also said most, but not all. and yes, it somewhat does matter who the admin is controlling it, it also relies on stability, the types of channels linked, and quite a few other smaller things.

I have known of at least 6 networks (other than janusirc) that have loaded janus and tried it and linked with multiple servers, but failed. either due to not having it stable, one didnt have the resources to hold the janus, and the others had fights between admin and then some just didnt like it link.

I know i shouldnt have even posted my offer here, cause i just recently got an sh*t load of bots spamming my main chans, which also taught me something new about janus, defcon on one server, adds defcon to all the janus chans on the other nets as well.

either way, my offer is still up, not only am i willing to link my janus to others, but im willing to accept janus links as well

Thanks Wink

katsklaw · Posted: Oct 16, 2010 7:55am Post subject:

Janus links are a lot like mergers, some work, many fail. It's in how mature conflicts are resolved.

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 16, 2010 3:05pm Post subject:

Well, i can assure anyone who wants to try it there will be no hassle as i am currently the one and only janus admin.

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 16, 2010 5:13pm Post subject:

y is the word " janus " bold?

PingBad · Posted: Oct 16, 2010 7:26pm Post subject:

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 17, 2010 8:21pm Post subject:

Oh, Ok, Thanks.

Just letting everyone know that my offer still stands. My janus is now currently linked with the following IRCd's:

irc.gngirc.com (GNG)
irc.TheMirageIRC.com (TMI)
irc.vrykospararadio.net (VPR)
irc.chatshit.co.uk (CSHIT)
irc.bat****.com (Owner wishes to keep it secret.) (BAT)

The layout is currently:

#oasis_playground is linked between TMI, GNG, CSHIT, & BAT.
#infowars is linked between TMI, GNG, CSHIT, & BAT.
#ParaRadio is linked between GNG & VPR.
#LinkChat is linked between MI, GNG, CSHIT.

#LinkChat will be our MAIN janus linked channel. If you accept me to link to you, that will be a required channel for me to link. All other channels are optional.

NOTE: As I stated before, If you like janus and know what it is but have no idea or way to host it, I will use my janus to host for you. All you will need to do is tell me the IRC servers where you want the janus linked and I will link it.

For those of you who don't know what a janus is, I can tell you it is an inter-network channel linker for IRC. Networks that participate in the Janus network have the ability to “share” channels with other networks. Shared channels will appear like any other normal channel on the network.

Whats Required?
To have my janus linked to your server the following is required:

A link block for janus.yourdomain.com
listen on port 7005 (optional, can be changed if needed)
a send/recv password
server/shell access to the IRCd

Thats it, the rest is my job. I will give you my server's IP address so you can add it to the link block and thats it. You rehash your IRCd, and I rehash my janus. The janus will then be linked to your server.

As for IRCd types, I can currently link with Unreal, InspIRCd, and Charybdis ircd.

Please pm me here, come to irc.gngirc.com #LinkChat OR #help. Not only will a janus link to your server help me, it will help your user-base as well.

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 18, 2010 4:51pm Post subject:

katsklaw · Posted: Oct 19, 2010 7:51am Post subject:

So does this count as a meta network now, Jason and deserve to be delisted as others have?

1273 users not directly connected to his network.

What about all the other networks linked? What about all the other countless Janus linked nets we don't know about?

Just Curious.

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 19, 2010 9:49am Post subject:

Just for the record, Not ALL of the links that show on my end are real links. Quakenet.org for example is not linked to my server.

katsklaw · Posted: Oct 19, 2010 12:55pm Post subject:

I was speaking directly to Jason. Thanks Smile

To be brief, this isn't about you directly. Others do the same thing so you aren't the first, others got delisted with no specific "this is what rule you violated" type explanation..

There are no clear definitions as to what SIRC calls a meta network, just a vague description that could apply to every network indexed depending on your point of view. Jason says: "If it's sharing users by whatever method, then it would be a meta network." The problem with that is if you have 2 servers connected, they share users! A channel linker bot shares user information between 2 nets, perhaps not at a network level, but Jason's definition doesn't include such information. It doesn't say what information, be it channel traffic or user records.

My goal is getting some form of formal, official standing on how SIRC is going to handle Janus. Currently SIRC's numbers are so far away from accurate, its not even funny. Some Janus nets have been delisted, others have not and as stated.

Yes, I'm familiar with Janus and how it works. More than most people actually.

Another thread about this is at: http://searchirc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=8870

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 19, 2010 1:18pm Post subject:

Oh, ok, didnt know you were talking directly to him. But with me reading that other post it makes me think... I went from an average of 85-100 users to an average of 1300 in one night. Lets say I link janus to a few other networks that have high amounts of users, am I gonna be automatically delisted because of this like the rest? Or should I slowly link these servers so that you and/or the bots dont think I am altering the /lusers like some people said for xnite?

As stated before, GNGIRC is now my new home and I would not want it removed from here.

my /lusers shows:

I have 15 clients and 3 servers
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Current Local Users: 15 Max: 37
Current Global Users: 1590 Max: 1802

Those three servers would be:
irc.gngirc.com
janus.gngirc.com
services.gngirc.com

the 15 local users are on my main server, all the rest would be on my janus links.

Another thing, if this IS going to effect my network listing, I will change it so that gngirc is not the janus network and will create a totally sperate network for my janus. That is something I would prefer not to do but will if needed!!

D3M0N · Posted: Oct 23, 2010 1:15pm Post subject:

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irc.thejanuschat.com currently doesn't work but u may connect via the IP 188.165.69.176. Be advised not ALL of the above servers are actual links, some are ClientBots. We are slowly but steadily growing... wanna become part of the janus? Either PM me on here with ur irc server and nick, or email me at Joe@Krazy-Host.Com with the same info!

Krat0s · none Joined: 30 Sep 2010 Posts: 43

sailirc was removed from the janus

[PingNote: We don't throw accusations around here, especially accusations that can't be reliably proven; On top of that, we won't have blatant insults either - let's keep things civil]