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| What IRC Stats software does your network run? |
| Denora IRC Stats |
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77% |
[ 7 ] |
| NeoStats Services |
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22% |
[ 2 ] |
| SolarStats, Statistical Services |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| OperStats |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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DrStein
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Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 50
Location: Concepcion, Chile
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 Posted: Aug 21, 2007 3:58pm Post subject: What IRC Stats software does your network run? |
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Three or four years ago there were several Stats software for IRC.
Today there are a just a few active and providing support.
The goal of this poll is to know what software do you use for making stats for IRC. Note that this is not asking what software do you preffer, or what is better.
I'm not aware of any IRC Stats software but the listed below. So please, if I am missing someone, let me know and I'll add it to this poll.
List of IRC Stats software and its homepages:
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ircmojo
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Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2007 4:53pm Post subject: |
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OperStats was discontinued a few years ago if I remember correctly, at about the same time as Cygnus IRC Services, which was forked into Shrike then Atheme. However, I have found a tarball repository of sorts at http://www.avendesora.net/habbernet/services/operstats/
I've used all the above but use Denora currently. I personally don't use Denora as a statistical service as far as keeping record of the general network stats as other packages do. I use Denora as a user/channel stats collector so my users can have their own "stats page" but as a network as a whole, we don't really care about stats. |
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trystan
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Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 756
Location: SLC Utah
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2007 5:38pm Post subject: |
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I thought Solarstats was also killed off by codemstr ? or at least was put on the shelf to the point the dust had built up so much that he no longer cared..
even though I started Denora.. I don't use it myself.. mostly cause I don't have a network any more |
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nenolod
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Joined: 23 Jan 2004
Posts: 326
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2007 7:50pm Post subject: |
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| ircmojo wrote: | | OperStats was discontinued a few years ago if I remember correctly, at about the same time as Cygnus IRC Services, which was forked into Shrike then Atheme. However, I have found a tarball repository of sorts at http://www.avendesora.net/habbernet/services/operstats/ |
Hi,
Shrike was never ever "forked from Cygnus."
Additionally, Atheme is not directly a fork of Shrike, but instead is derived from the some of the same code as Shrike. For the sake of giving proper credit, we credit rakaur (oh BTW i was on the shrike team too), but even Atheme 0.1 was mostly my own original code.
To synopsize:
* Cygnus is entirely seperate from Atheme and Shrike.
* Shrike was written from scratch.
* Atheme was mostly written from scratch using some Shrike code to jumpstart the process.
Atheme starting with version 0.2 contained only a few utility functions from Shrike. Atheme 0.1 contained the Shrike I/O routines and configuration parsing engine, some account and channel management routines -- all of which were heavily reworked.
As such, Atheme was mostly written from scratch by me over the summer of 2005 using Shrike as a starting point (e.g. the "fork" part only applies to Atheme 0.1, even though really it wasn't a fork because it had things like NickServ  ), and Shrike was never a fork of Cygnus, making both original work.
However, in some ways, Atheme is a successor to Shrike, but there was another successor called Praxis, which was the official one.
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DrStein
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Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 50
Location: Concepcion, Chile
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| Posted: Aug 21, 2007 9:26pm Post subject: |
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There you are! disturbing my post.
nenolod, if you wanna talk about Atheme, please open a new thread, but this one is simple: What IRC Stats software does your network run? |
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nenolod
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Joined: 23 Jan 2004
Posts: 326
Location: A box!
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| Posted: Aug 22, 2007 10:03am Post subject: |
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| DrStein wrote: | There you are! disturbing my post.
nenolod, if you wanna talk about Atheme, please open a new thread |
I'm sorry, but I have a perfect right to correct somebody who spreads disinformation about my products. I'm pretty sure someone would do the same if someone asserted that Denora is a fork of OperStats.
| DrStein wrote: | | but this one is simple: What IRC Stats software does your network run? |
For the record, I have Denora as a backend in beta for a CGI:IRC access system, though. |
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lagmaster
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Joined: 06 Nov 2004
Posts: 116
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| Posted: Aug 22, 2007 10:18am Post subject: |
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on my network we used to use neostats, but is that even updated now? have not even checked tho.
i tried to put denora ages ago on my network but it used to barf after a day of use then decided to leave it. the last 2 weeks we decided to grab a svn version of denora since other networks seems to have no issues with a svn version.
cant really fault it so far, might give phpdenora a go sometime soon. |
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trystan
Eleet
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 756
Location: SLC Utah
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ircmojo
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Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Posts: 215
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| Posted: Aug 22, 2007 6:50pm Post subject: |
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| nenolod wrote: |
I'm sorry, but I have a perfect right to correct somebody who spreads disinformation about my products. |
Then perhaps you should be a bit more clear in your own documentation because as it reads now, many people will think it's forked. Personally, a partial fork or even enough "borrowed" code is still a damned fork! Spanks for playing.
| Atheme README wrote: |
Atheme was originally based on Shrike, however, this has almost all been
rewritten now.
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nenolod
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Joined: 23 Jan 2004
Posts: 326
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| Posted: Aug 22, 2007 7:58pm Post subject: |
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| ircmojo wrote: | | Then perhaps you should be a bit more clear in your own documentation because as it reads now, many people will think it's forked. Personally, a partial fork or even enough "borrowed" code is still a damned fork! Spanks for playing. |
It is more clarified in our FAQ than it is in README. Although I have on my personal tree a note to look at the FAQ if you're interested in the gruesome details, so it will be "updated" when 3.0 is released.
However, generally speaking, you had no reason to mention Atheme in this thread to begin with as it is related to Denora, thus demonstrating that you likely have some other agenda you wish to make course with. |
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GeniusDex
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Joined: 16 Aug 2003
Posts: 150
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| Posted: Aug 23, 2007 3:59am Post subject: |
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| I find it very typical how a normal question here once again results into a discussion about what content is and what content is not appreciated in this thread... |
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Mestara
none
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 8
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| Posted: Aug 23, 2007 12:07pm Post subject: |
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| seems to be missing a "none" option. maybe by design maybe not, Have tried a few of the packages but alot seem to have very big failing points, at least at the time of testing, with resources and stability and over all presenting very little benefit |
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braindigitalis
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Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 443
Location: IRC
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| Posted: Aug 23, 2007 12:36pm Post subject: |
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| yes, where is the 'none'? i run none of these. Some of them are a bit unstable and others are no longer maintained. |
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DrStein
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Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 50
Location: Concepcion, Chile
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| Posted: Aug 23, 2007 2:13pm Post subject: |
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To add a "none" option would cause a semantic error. Sine the question is "What IRC Stats software does your network run?" you can't answer "none". As far as I know, none is not a software xD
I know there are a lot of people which don't run any Stats software. If that is your case, you could comment why.
Oh, and don't give up because you tried a version of a program before which didn't work. If that happen, contribute reporting the bug, and try the new versions. We don't get paid for the work we do, so.. if you use our software, please help us at least reporting bugs on our bugtrackers.
Continue voting! |
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ircmojo
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Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Posts: 215
Location: $HOME sweet $HOME
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| Posted: Aug 23, 2007 7:22pm Post subject: |
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| nenolod wrote: |
However, generally speaking, you had no reason to mention Atheme in this thread to begin with as it is related to Denora, thus demonstrating that you likely have some other agenda you wish to make course with. |
Actually it does fit, regardless of if you see it or agree. OperStats, which is the basis for my post is by the same author as Cygus IRC Services, (skold). Which as it's been explained is related to Shrike and to Atheme, no matter how much you try to debunk the relationship that just happens to be mentioned in your and Shrike's credits.
I'm so sorry, but I don't need your permission as to what I can/can not post and I do not need you to tell me what seems to be approved content just because you think it should/shouldn't.
ciao |
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