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sickmusic
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PostPosted: Dec 10, 2003 12:38pm    Post subject: why port 6667? Reply with quote

why do most servers use port 6667?

im at work and cant connect to any channels. i think its because the firewall blocks traffic from port 6667..

or am i wrong?

also..
does anybody have any resources that shows me how to set up my own mirc server?
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moonman
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PostPosted: Dec 10, 2003 1:35pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

port 6667 is just a default port, which is why that port is blocked at work. i dont know how they originally decided on it. if you want to set up your own server, i'd recommend googling "unrealircd" or "wircd" (if you want to go the windows route) and doing a little homework from there.
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PostPosted: Dec 10, 2003 1:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option is to use port forwarding, and bounce off of an unblocked port to an external port 6667.
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PostPosted: Dec 10, 2003 2:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Port numbers are used for different protocols, such as telnet, HTTP, email, ftp, and IRC servers. To make things consistant, there are default ports for each protocol. The administrator doesn't have to use that port, and they can add more, but as a general rule you should get through to the IRC server if you connect to its default port of 6667. Servers on large networks often add many more ports, allowing user connections on 6660, 6661, 6662, 6663, 6664, 6665, 6666, 6667, 6668, 6669, and 7000, and I have seen servers use 7700, 7777, 8080, and 8888. If the IRC server is on a dedicated machine, or one owned by the IRC admin, he/she may have a port that connects to IRC that is outside of the range detected by your firewall. You can also connect to IRC through some ssh systems. The best way to find out is to ask the admin of your favorite IRC server. This is not an unusual problem so some admins have set up non-public ports they may be willing to share with you.

However, a word of advice - if you value your job I wouldn't suggest doing anything that overtly circumvents the limits your employer has placed on your internet activities. It might be better to IRC from home or a portable device such as a laptop, palm pilot, or even a cell phone that has access.

There is no such thing as a mirc server. mIRC is an IRC client - it is a program on your computer that connects to an IRC server. Starting your own IRC server is not very difficult these days. You can set up an irc server on your home computer if it has a very good connection, but if you want something dependable that other people can use, then you'll need a shell, and basic knowledge of unix. By basic I mean, if you have enough skill to set up a bot on a shell on your own, you'll have no problem setting up an IRC server.
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PostPosted: Dec 11, 2003 6:14am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason wrote:
Another option is to use port forwarding, and bounce off of an unblocked port to an external port 6667.


Surprised please tell me more..

btw thanks for ur help guys. ive current got an online phpbb community on lycos free web space. and lycos is beginin to pee everyone off with their banners. im therfore also looking for another cheap host. the users on my site are all crying out for a chatroom, did a few searches.. and stumbled across this site.. which is very informatve and helpful.

can anyone suggest a reliable host, that supports php, mysql and will also host an irc server for me.. and also lt me mess about with the port numbers??

or am i asking too much?
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zeke
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PostPosted: Dec 11, 2003 7:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickmusic wrote:
the users on my site are all crying out for a chatroom


Suggestion: instead of going straight to an ircd, which you seemingly know nothing about, why not just get a channel on an existing server - try the Networks pages ==> http://searchirc.com/networks, or the Network Announcements forum on here. This way, everything is set up, if it breaks its not your fault or problem, and you still have chat!

Just an idea =)
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PostPosted: Dec 11, 2003 12:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as good hosts that support php and all that good stuff... try http://www.darktides.net. i've known the founder of that hosting company forever, and he has some great prices. i've hosted my site there for a long time with no problems and the support is excellent. and the suggestion to use an existing server to host your chatroom is probably a pretty good idea. a lot of us (the folks who post regularly) have our own networks so whichever avenue you decide to pursue, someone will be more than eager to help. shop around for a good network that will fit your community. or if you decide to go the ircd route, let one of know and we can point you in the direction of a good shell provider.
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2003 8:45am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeke wrote:
sickmusic wrote:
the users on my site are all crying out for a chatroom


Suggestion: instead of going straight to an ircd, which you seemingly know nothing about, why not just get a channel on an existing server - try the Networks pages ==> http://searchirc.com/networks, or the Network Announcements forum on here. This way, everything is set up, if it breaks its not your fault or problem, and you still have chat!

Just an idea =)


that sounds like a fantastic idea. thanks zeke.

but just to clear thins up a bit.. ur right i knw next to nothing about IRC networks, ive got a couple of follow on questions.

how do i get a channel on an exisiting server?
from ur networks page will i have to contact the server admin to lease a channel?
how much should i expect to pay for a channel?
who creates the applet code for the channel to appear on my site?
finally, any recommendations?

thanks in advance.
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Mary
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2003 10:06am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how do i get a channel on an exisiting server?


The general rule on IRC is, if you open a channel with "/join channelname" and 1) no one is in it, 2) you don't get a message from a network bot telling you someone owns the channel, and 3) the channel is not against network rules (some nets will not register warez, sex, chans etc) and 4) the network has a channel registration process (although channel registration is very popular, it is not universal) then the channel is yours and you can register to own it so every time you come to that network the channel will be under your control.

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from ur networks page will i have to contact the server admin to lease a channel?


A very few IRC networks charge money to lease/own a channel or put a bot in it. The vast majority are 100% free (although donations to help support the network are always nice). Different networks have different registration processes. Some use internal bots, some make you register via a web form or by email. Check the network's website, or motd, or ask in the network's help channel.

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how much should i expect to pay for a channel?


Nothing. Ever. There are simply too many FREE, stable, well run IRC networks to consider using a pay service.

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who creates the applet code for the channel to appear on my site?


You have a lot of choices. There are quite a few java applets you can put on your site. pjirc is free - but don't let the price fool you, its one of the nicest apps available, SearchIRC uses jpilot ($50 fee if you install it on your site, if your channel is listed on SearchIRC then you can do something like: <a href="http://searchirc.com/javachat.php?c=c2VhcmNoaXJj&s=aXJjLnNlYXJjaGlyYy5vcmc&p=NjY2Nw&n=NDQ3)">"join now!"</a> that opens the app we have running on this site). jpilot is very fast to load and simple to use. If your wallet is too heavy there are some VERY pricey commercial products available that do the same thing.

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finally, any recommendations?


Personally, I think a STABLE, well managed, friendly network where the staff will go out of its way to help you set up, answer questions, and resolve problems is best for anyone new to IRC. I have no clue what type of channel you want to open, but trust me, no matter what it is, there's a good match (or several) for you out there.

Let the invitations commence. :)
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2003 12:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mregit.. ur a star.

thanks very much for that info.

okay another few questions..

back to the original topic of port 6667..

how can i change the port number? or does the server admin have to change it?

will it be controlled on the server/client side?

Jason, mentioned bouncing off unblocked ports? any more info?

the reason i ask this is because i intend to develop my site from work, as i have a bit of time to spare in between jobs. we currently access the internet through a firwall hence have a http proxy "proxy.adomainname.com" on port 80.

i understand port 80 is used for html?? can this also be used for IRC?

Ta
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Mary
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2003 1:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickmusic, I'm a bit confused what you mean when you say you are trying to develop a site. Do you want to set up a website with an IRC client built into it, that multiple people will use to connect to one channel? Or do you want to build up a channel that you will need to access via a port redirect?
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2003 1:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mregit wrote:
sickmusic, I'm a bit confused what you mean when you say you are trying to develop a site. Do you want to set up a website with an IRC client built into it, that multiple people will use to connect to one channel? Or do you want to build up a channel that you will need to access via a port redirect?


both. if that makes any sense.

i need an irc client built into a web page, that allows users to access an irc channel through a port other than 6667.

is this possible?
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Mary
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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2003 2:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.... but

You can set up a java client to use a port the IRC admin has opened - say, port 5050. The java client will let everyone connect from their own computer, to the IRC network, and they will appear with their own IP.

If you set up a port redirect for the java client, then people will be connecting to a remote server that then directs everyone to the IRC server, and everyone will have the IP of the redirect server. This usually isn't done because most networks limit the number of connections from a given host, and if one user gets K lined you will ALL get K lined.

Unless the majority of your users have the same firewall problem you do, there really is no need for the IRC client to connect to an unusual port.

As for your own connection, there are all sorts of options available - the simplest, and most secure, is to IRC from a shell using a unix client, such as bitchx (www.bitchx.org). Bouncers are also popular (google irc bouncer, there are many available) that will let you connect mIRC to a telnet session and appear on IRC with the IP of the shell. Because both of them use telnet ports, they should be able to get through your firewall without a problem. If neither of those two options works for you, then you may want to investigate ssh port forwarding: http://skylab.org/~plumpy/ssh.html
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PostPosted: Dec 13, 2003 10:27am    Post subject: i am here to save you Reply with quote

sickmusic wrote:
Jason wrote:
Another option is to use port forwarding, and bounce off of an unblocked port to an external port 6667.


Surprised please tell me more..

btw thanks for ur help guys. ive current got an online phpbb community on lycos free web space. and lycos is beginin to pee everyone off with their banners. im therfore also looking for another cheap host. the users on my site are all crying out for a chatroom, did a few searches.. and stumbled across this site.. which is very informatve and helpful.

can anyone suggest a reliable host, that supports php, mysql and will also host an irc server for me.. and also lt me mess about with the port numbers??

or am i asking too much?


I can do all that for you for a reasonable price, I don't host anyone else on my personal server but seeing your a nice person blah blah.. If you are interested you can send me an IM to (p0nchic).
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PostPosted: Dec 15, 2003 1:04pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi people.. its me again.. Smile

okay,

ive been digging around and it looks like im gonna go for the PJIRC firsty because its free Surprised secondly its opensource and has tonnes of mods. One o the mods i thought that wud be useful is its integration with phpbb usernames..

okay heres another query, ive looked at freeserve chat, and it appears that the applet uses port 7000. Another observation was that it uses port 7000 and listens for http tunnel data.

is this a standard feature of IRC?
to elaborate further, if i was to ask an IRC server admin to enale port 7000 and set up PJIRC to listen on that port, will it work in the same way as freeserve?

the reason i ask is because i can use freeserve chat at work with no problems, and most of my other members can also use it..

Thanks so much.. i know i am being a bit of a pain now :oops:
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