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zeeboot
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2007 9:35am    Post subject: Attempting to block /msg on my server Reply with quote

I realize this is kind of dumb however for my production irc server I would like to do this and I will explain quickly why.

I am an administrator of an out-sourced call center and am planning to use IRC as my primary communication resource between my representatives and my different clients. I currently support 15+ call centers around the country and would like their representatives to have their own private channels.

All channels are secret with keys so that their are no rogue users running from channel to channel. I have a central support channel in case something happens and someone needs immediate contact with one of my reps and I do not want different clients discussing business related information with each other

I am making this transition because AOL messenger is an great way for reps to take productive time and turn it into unproductive time.

If there is a way to block the ability to private message(/msg) and (/notice) it would be great. Any input would be appreciated.

Even better: If I could make it so users could only /msg or /notice my reps it would be great but I doubt that is possible.


quick edit: I am running UnrealIRCd with Anope services
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Rob_
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2007 9:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disable user nick registration and have unreal enforce umode +R - that way only registered nicks can recive pm's/notices from non-opers, and since users cant register without your help, they cant do anything.
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2007 8:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or the easy way

Inspircd has a few modules to do the trick Razz

m_restrictmsg
http://www.inspircd.org/wiki/Message_Restriction_Module

Not sure if this fits in but

m_restrictchans
http://www.inspircd.org/wiki/Channel_Restriction_Module

Great thing about inspircd is you can load and unload modules in a fly Razz


I would also take Rob_ advice to disable Nick registeration
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zeeboot
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2007 8:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob_ wrote:
Disable user nick registration and have unreal enforce umode +R - that way only registered nicks can recive pm's/notices from non-opers, and since users cant register without your help, they cant do anything.


I have set umode +R as a first step but before I disable nick registration I want to run by you what I think you mean. Please tell me if I'm wrong. I probably am!

I am in the services.conf and am going to simply remove the ns_register module correct?

Also if I do this will I as an admin on my server be able to register users for others? Just want a bit of clarification before i start breaking stuff!
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zeeboot
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2007 8:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FBI: It is tempting but after setting up all the stuff with this unrealircd i hate to just drop it and have to reconfigure. I have seen Inspircd mentioned a LOT though. I will read up on it.
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2007 10:14pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeeboot wrote:
FBI: It is tempting but after setting up all the stuff with this unrealircd i hate to just drop it and have to reconfigure. I have seen Inspircd mentioned a LOT though. I will read up on it.


Once you try it out you'll love it.... Cool

Its pretty easy setting up Inspircd Razz
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PostPosted: Feb 27, 2007 10:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeeboot wrote:
Rob_ wrote:
Disable user nick registration and have unreal enforce umode +R - that way only registered nicks can recive pm's/notices from non-opers, and since users cant register without your help, they cant do anything.


I have set umode +R as a first step but before I disable nick registration I want to run by you what I think you mean. Please tell me if I'm wrong. I probably am!
Additionaly, use the ns_operonly_register Anope module (if that is the services package you use). That way you can still allow your opers to register, and be able to manage OperServ/ChanServ permissions.
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PostPosted: May 29, 2007 2:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IRCd sucks at what you are trying to do. you might want to Try IRCxpro or OFFICEirc. You can Customize them more then IRCd servers. with modes that IRCd dont have.
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PostPosted: May 29, 2007 4:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash, you've stated many times that IRCx > IRCd... but there's one short fall you likely haven't considered in that rather blanket statement of yours - modules.
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ircmojo
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PostPosted: May 29, 2007 4:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash_ChatNSN wrote:
IRCd sucks at what you are trying to do. you might want to Try IRCxpro or OFFICEirc. You can Customize them more then IRCd servers. with modes that IRCd dont have.


1> You're wrong, there *ARE* IRCd's that can do this easily.
2> there is not just 1 IRCd but several dozen that are popular.
3> Pingbad's solution will work perfectly on more than 1 ircd.
4> IRCd's have more commands and supported channel modes that you give credit for.

I looked over the IRCx protocol and didn't see anything that couldn't be done on a standard, freeware, open source ircd that you don't have to pay for. Most of IRCx that I DID see is already done and even started on IRC before MS sporked IRCx off.

Challenge: Name 1 channel or usermode that IRCx has that no ircd has or can't have using a module.
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PostPosted: May 30, 2007 3:25am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PingBad wrote:
Crash, you've stated many times that IRCx > IRCd... but there's one short fall you likely haven't considered in that rather blanket statement of yours - modules.


most of your IRCd mods are already built in to IRCxpro that you really need. it has its own built in proxy scanner. Version scanner. all in one package. no need to add other servers. even tho the software cost alot of money. so whats up no welcome back Crashy we miss you stupid remarks? Razz lol
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ircmojo
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PostPosted: May 30, 2007 5:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash_ChatNSN wrote:
PingBad wrote:
Crash, you've stated many times that IRCx > IRCd... but there's one short fall you likely haven't considered in that rather blanket statement of yours - modules.


most of your IRCd mods are already built in to IRCxpro that you really need. it has its own built in proxy scanner. Version scanner. all in one package. no need to add other servers. even tho the software cost alot of money. so whats up no welcome back Crashy we miss you stupid remarks? Razz lol


You're missing the point. IRC *CAN* do everything IRCx can do. IRCx claims to be an extention of RFC1459 .. guess what .. so are ircd's .. there are no IRCd's left that follow RFC1459 exactly, so all of the IRCd's are "extensions" to the IRC protocol.

BTW, I'd rather run proxy scanners and services seperately from the ircd to start with, it makes no sense to combine them into 1 huge application, what if the proxy scanners starts acting weird and crashes everytime it scans a user? Since my scanner is seperate I shut my scanner down without disconnecting any clients and trouble shoot it. IF that happened to you on IRCx, you can't even troubleshoot it. Since my scanner is also open source and not closed source commercial software, I can customize any part of it, my ircd AND my services anytime I want, you are limited to configuration options, I am not. I'm limited to the flexibility of the programming language it's self. I can add any feature, you can not. I can add regex channel bans, you can not. I can add support for any SQL program I want, you can not. I can create and use modules, you can not. I can do all of the above for free, you can not. I can modify my IRCd to run on any operating system I choose (just so you know .. it already does), you can not .. and the list goes on and on and on ...

IRCd can do everything IRCx does and for free. I'd gladly pay $0 USD and have to configure 3 seperate programs than to pay upto $3000 USD for an upgrade on those 3 applications being combined into 1 that I can only configure and not expand upon. The number of users I can connect to my IRCd is basicly up to me, where you are limited to the size of what you paid. There is an IRCd that has held 40,000 users on 1 ircd. I doubt seriously that you can do that with IRCx even after paying $3000+ dollars.

So tell me again how "great" IRCx is.
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PingBad
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PostPosted: May 30, 2007 1:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash_ChatNSN wrote:
so whats up no welcome back Crashy we miss you stupid remarks? Razz lol
I've been away for about a month too (maybe a touch less) - so hadn't noticed if you've been away in that time...

And ircmojo - I couldn't have said it better
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Snerf
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PostPosted: May 30, 2007 6:43pm    Post subject: no /msg or /notice Reply with quote

Just a quick toss in, but why not use a specialized client, that simply does not allow these commands, and/or whatever else you want disabled.

That would probaly work a lot better, for your needs.
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PostPosted: Jun 12, 2007 1:04pm    Post subject: yea Reply with quote

uh huh
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