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mouselike
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Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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lol did anyone have problems in understanding what he just said ? 
Anyway xddc bots and such is one of the reasons irc is being used for all the wrong reasons, I was under the assumption that you were creating one larger network for general chat, not a one large xddc network, and forcing users into a xddc channel is also a bit annoying, a lounge or lobby channel would be more suitable so the user if they wish then can then do a /list and join a warez/xddc/filesharing channel if they chose to do so.
Yes efnet is "ONE" of the largest, but it aint the largest network by far, but consider this, both dalnet and efnet allowed warez, dalnet now has removed most of its warez channels and it doesnt suffer so much DDoS attacks as it did, efnet iirc a few years back also suffered large ddos problems as did also undernet; all because one of the reasons were being they had filesharing/warez channels available, i aint saying they got rid of them completely but they still have very few now.
if you want to be part of a warez/xddc network why not go link up to rizon, seems to make more sense not create yet another file sharing network.
So you have tripped yourself up a bit, most of us here have been on xddc networks, its just ashame you've added to the quanity of networks that do allow it with filesharing.
IRC = Internet Relay Chat, not Internet Relay Filesharing *hint*hint*hint* keep it to filesharing programs i say.
p.s i was going to wish you all the very best of luck on your network project, but instead i wish it all the very best of luck in closing down quickly. |
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HassanKhalid
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Joined: 23 May 2006
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yeh basically irc networks for chat but do you think all users need chat? no every person have it,s own taste and we are trying to give entertainment for all kind of peoples no harm in warez channels also we share all things with copy right dats the main think:) so we are enjoying all  |
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flux
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Joined: 26 Apr 2006
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Location: Stockton-On-Tees, England
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| Posted: Jun 13, 2006 11:42am Post subject: |
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i think you seriously need to re-think your ideas and attitude, theres so much wrong with what you said i'm not even going to bother saying anythink.
just grow up. |
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SATAN-HHH
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Joined: 29 Nov 2003
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Jun 13, 2006 6:00pm Post subject: |
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| HassanKhalid wrote: | well
yeh basically irc networks for chat but do you think all users need chat? no every person have it,s own taste and we are trying to give entertainment for all kind of peoples no harm in warez channels also we share all things with copy right dats the main think:) so we are enjoying all |
I believe that the first people that came up with IRC did so with creating something for chat in mind, not illegal filesharing. Warez channels do cause harm whether you believe it or not, as almost all of the time the things shared are copyrighted material that someone worked to create and sell, therefore by sharing these items freely you take money out of someone's pocket, messing with their livlihood. Believe me, I am as much of an advocate of open source as the next, but certain things should at least be held to some sacredness including integrity, of which alot of people apparently have none. |
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DeMiNe0
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Joined: 25 Jan 2004
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Location: Westchester, New York
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| Posted: Jun 13, 2006 6:05pm Post subject: |
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I don't think filesharing is entertaining.....
If you wanted to get serious about IRC, then ditch the xdcc bots, and try running a chat only network. Afterall, what fun is an IRC network when all you see is constent join/parts of bots/leechers and netsplits because of DDOS attacks?
| HassanKhalid wrote: | well
yeh basically irc networks for chat but do you think all users need chat? no every person have it,s own taste and we are trying to give entertainment for all kind of peoples no harm in warez channels also we share all things with copy right dats the main think:) so we are enjoying all |
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HassanKhalid
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Joined: 23 May 2006
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| Posted: Jun 14, 2006 11:27am Post subject: |
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| well we surve all with all rights and do you think chatnetworks not face dedos or any other attrack??? |
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mouselike
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Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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Location: IRC
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| Posted: Jun 14, 2006 1:27pm Post subject: |
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| HassanKhalid wrote: | | well we surve all with all rights |
I sincerely hope not
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and do you think chatnetworks not face dedos or any other attrack??? |
Every network is as much as an easy target as the next, but then how often did you see splits happen on quakenet like happened on dalnet and undernet a few years back? You dont, but warez orientated networks make you a larger sitting duck to larger warez networks / channels wanting your user base or larger a botnet(s) wanting your network gone.
Warez brings trouble and the whole purpose of dcc was to share random file(s) when needbe with others like msn, yahoo, icq facilities has, but networks that allows wares take away the fundamentals of irc, software copyright and all the hard work gone into coding, preparing and selling the software your network is so gladly freely distrubuting and extracting amongsts its xdcc users and bots. so no you have no rights to filesharing opf copyrighted software on your network, you just have the rights to allow xddc fileshare's on your network that distrbuits freeware unmodified and/or opensource software. |
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HassanKhalid
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Joined: 23 May 2006
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| Posted: Jun 14, 2006 3:18pm Post subject: |
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| am agree with you warez networks have problems but dono about others countries but we have all rights on our files |
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SATAN-HHH
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Joined: 29 Nov 2003
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Jun 14, 2006 4:10pm Post subject: |
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| HassanKhalid wrote: | | well we surve all with all rights and do you think chatnetworks not face dedos or any other attrack??? |
#1 Yes, all networks do eventually face one type of attack or other but in all reality networks that host these types of filesharing and such face much more attack than any other network.
#2 You should learn how to spell better. Your spelling is horrid which does not do well to help you communicate. |
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Alpha
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Joined: 29 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Jun 14, 2006 4:22pm Post subject: |
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| HassanKhalid wrote: | | well we surve all with all rights and do you think chatnetworks not face dedos or any other attrack??? |
As HassanKhalid, we meet again.
I remember when I tried to bring down ProShells and you for your stupid dDosing and crap. Well - I hope this project burns in hell too. |
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Scire
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Joined: 14 Apr 2006
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Location: IRC
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| Posted: Jun 14, 2006 5:41pm Post subject: |
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| HassanKhalid wrote: | | well we surve all with all rights and do you think chatnetworks not face dedos or any other attrack??? |
Irrelevant |
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DeMiNe0
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Joined: 25 Jan 2004
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Location: Westchester, New York
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| Posted: Jun 14, 2006 6:01pm Post subject: |
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So im guessing that you own the rights to the Lost Prophets CD being shared on one of the xdcc bots on your network? I think not.
It doesn't matter what country you are from, You DO NOT have the right to share these files legaly
It's the idea's like you have that make IRC look bad. I do hope your network fails. Infact i don't need to hope, i know it will fail... Any network that has network admins that are as ignorent as a certain person in this thread, will surely fail.
| HassanKhalid wrote: | | am agree with you warez networks have problems but dono about others countries but we have all rights on our files |
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SATAN-HHH
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Joined: 29 Nov 2003
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Location: Texas
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| Agreed. And ddosing back and forth are the exact reasons that networks fail. One person hits the one network or person, network gets ddosed, and it continues back and forth in a hoplessly endless loop that does nothing but bring harm. These are the EXACT people that give irc a bad name. |
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HassanKhalid
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Joined: 23 May 2006
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| well i agree as betwork grow having problem like dedos etc stuff but we are talking about link project not about chat networks or warez network if it,s not legal all network sould close thx |
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mouselike
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| Posted: Jun 15, 2006 12:29pm Post subject: |
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link project? last time i checked i thought linking servers was todo with creating a network! When has it changed Hassan?
Didnt get the last past but i still dont think you understand how much legal rights you have to share others work, which is basicly ***none*** so please understand as DeMiNe0 tried to point out to you.
I dont agree with ddos attacks though and really hope no one here does so, but a network of your genre hassan its inevitable and no doubt would happen/shorltly enough against your network compared to a network of the same size that strictly bans filesharing.... no thats not me making any threats or promises just letting you know its a rough ride for any xddc network. |
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