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Possible ircd feature for flood protections.

 
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I was wondering how users would feel about having the ability to enable certain protections in emergency situations such as severe flooding. The idea would be to lock down the entire ircd in different stages.
I would like something like this
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 70%  [ 7 ]
This has no place in an ircd
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 20%  [ 2 ]
It is of no interest to me but I would not mind having it in the ircd
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OvErRiTe
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PostPosted: Oct 28, 2005 7:33pm    Post subject: Possible ircd feature for flood protections. Reply with quote

I was wondering how users would feel about having the ability to enable certain protections in emergency situations such as severe flooding. The idea would be to lock down the entire ircd in different stages. One mode would prevent joins/parts. Another mode would prevent private messages. another would prevent connections. and the most extreme mode which would basically prevent all new connections, any new channels from being joined, and all pmg's to cease.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
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FBI
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2005 8:04pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be nice to something like that...be pretty useful

But Anope has the defcon system...
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2005 8:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everyone wants to run Anope, and its nice to have an ircd that does some on its own
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GeniusDex
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PostPosted: Oct 30, 2005 2:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus services can only take action once users have already connected or joined, they can't block messages, and a few more limitations. Ideally, services should work together with the IRCd to lock down the network in a DEFCON kind of way.
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PostPosted: Oct 30, 2005 8:10am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you block them from flooding on the ircd then they are just going to resort to attacking/flooding the box. Most drones these days seem to have inbuilt functions for flooding/ddosing hosts
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OvErRiTe
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PostPosted: Oct 30, 2005 3:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if other flood actions were taken, like banning the clients in question, why wouldnt they do the same?
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PostPosted: Nov 01, 2005 7:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh, ViagraIRCd already has this functionality ala Bahamut. It's called High-Traffic-Mode, or HTM for short. It dates back to 2.8.21+th-rodder.

Please look at your own code before asking such silly questions. Sad
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OvErRiTe
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PostPosted: Nov 01, 2005 7:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uggh, not quite the same.
The idea would to have the ability to enable certain modes without relying on htm, or forcing it.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 1:20pm    Post subject: OCR Reply with quote

An OCR* it's the best way, i think.


* OCR: Optical character recognition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition
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Ty
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PostPosted: Nov 13, 2005 12:13pm    Post subject: Re: OCR Reply with quote

RoDoR wrote:
An OCR* it's the best way, i think.


* OCR: Optical character recognition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition


lol, what the HELL are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Nov 13, 2005 11:53pm    Post subject: Re: Possible ircd feature for flood protections. Reply with quote

OvErRiTe wrote:
I was wondering how users would feel about having the ability to enable certain protections in emergency situations such as severe flooding. The idea would be to lock down the entire ircd in different stages. One mode would prevent joins/parts.

+i

OvErRiTe wrote:
Another mode would prevent private messages.

+R, or +g/+I (hybrid, or Unreal with aquanight's CALLERID module).

OvErRiTe wrote:
another would prevent connections.

Remove your allow { }, or whatever.

OvErRiTe wrote:
...any new channels from being joined...

Easily doable in a module.

Thing is, this is 99% un-needed. If you're having a problem with flooding, target the bots or whatever causing it - not the symptoms they cause.

I'd like to mention I really hate HTM.
[edit]Most of why I hate it is that computer-based "flood protection systems" and the like REALLY, really suck.

Plus, most of what you've mentioned actually doesn't load ircd down too much. /list is a nasty culprit, remote /whois can be.. /who also. Joining a channel isn't really an expensive operation, especially with an IRCd that supports 005 MAXCHANNELS or the equivilant.[/edit]

Thanks.
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