let loose the dogs of spam

TheWingedOne · Newbie Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 71 Location: The Void...

This is why we need vigilantes. Cool

Robert-E-Lee · Posted: Apr 07, 2005 10:12am Post subject:

the problem there comes in as this :
where exactly do you draw the line between flaming, warning people, and consructive criticism?
obviously, when extremely negative things happen, no one wants to leave everyone to learn by making the same mistake as they did, so sometimes, people WILL post warnings, is that to be looked on as 'flaming' or 'constructive criticism' ?

because a lot of the smaller networks are run either by younger people, or by people who have a dislike for other people having more say than them, it often becomes the case that smaller networks generate arguments, disagreements when people link, which can lead to arguments, warnings, and often to networks taking their disagreements to less legal means of resolution, which can lead once more, to wanring posts, or flaming posts.
the issue isn't fully with what's being said. the issue seems, to me at least, moreso to be with the calibre of people who're now starting networks, less and less people are doing it out of a desire to put something into the IRC community as a whole, in fact, quite the oppoosite, they have more interest in taking from the community, for personal gain. new networks are interested only in themselves more often than not, and either ignore opportunities to aid others, or, worse, take the opportunity to help, and twist it into an opportunity to harm, in part, this is down to the general culture on the modern day internet, many people see the way to learning as being involved in modern day 'hacking' culture, to one degree or another, with some people, they immerse fully in it, with others, merely the attitude rubs off. THAT is where the current issues are coming from. the solution seems to me, to be to do something to restore the old fashioned IRC community, where people were interested in IRC as a whole, not just their little corner thereof. restoring that balance, should be peoples target, not simply stopping a bit of flame. deal with the cause, not the result, doing so will eventually eliminate the result as well.

PingBad · Guru Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 2031 Location: New Zealand

Very good arguments guys, mebbe we should keep the current system of "Take care of it when it happens"

TheWingedOne · Newbie Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 71 Location: The Void...

If I see something happening - I post a warning. That simple, if those who aren't directly involve help "moderate" the discussion, we might have a better place Smile

Dr-Voodo · Eleet Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 535 Location: IRC

Well warnings may be good but no one seems to care about it.

TheWingedOne · Newbie Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 71 Location: The Void...

I don't know, it seems to be doing something sometimes.

Jason · Posted: Apr 08, 2005 5:06pm Post subject:

just so everyone knows, if you see someone who does nothing but harass or taunt others, or in any other way violates the ToS of the site, PM me with the urls that back up your statement and I will take care of it.

ShelLuser · none Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 21

Just my 2 cents but I have to admit being a little surprised with the registration process. In many cases your email gets verified which makes spamming and harassing immediatly a little harder since you can't "just" generate several accounts.

Considering the thread I'd say that verifying the e-mail adress might not be such a bad idea.

Stefano · Eleet Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 527 Location: Beirut

hmmm well after reading all of you guys, i agree on what some said that somehow searchirc is a way to promote networks. And this is why network admins see searchirc as a gift sent by the gods (maybe my words are exageration but its an expression Cool

, but its almost true. some are lame, many are lame, but this isnt a reason to make things harder for the admins. they have better to do then run after those .. whatever.. im a webmaster myself and i know what im tlaking about.
email verification in this case is a must. and do not tell me that its making this harder for some and bla bla. well users can and should make a little effort and verify their registration to be able to use searchirc. or only admins should make an effort?