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W-Unit Newbie

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 83
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Posted: Oct 12, 2004 7:46pm Post subject: Wallops/Globops |
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I really should know this but I don't and I can't find it out, so I guess I'll just ask:
What is the difference between a /wallops and a /globops?
They both send messages to all the opers on the network (with proper SNOMASKs) right?
This is UnrealIRCd if there is any difference between IRCds. |
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Plasma Newbie

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 63
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Posted: Oct 12, 2004 8:13pm Post subject: |
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Globops are notice's sent which are only viewable by global IRC operators.
Wallops are viewable by all IRC operators, in addition to, normal users who manually set their mode +w (wallops).
So basically normal users can view wallops messages too, if they elect it via usermode +w. |
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aquanight Lurker

Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Boise, ID
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Posted: Oct 12, 2004 9:24pm Post subject: |
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| There are a few rare Globops that are sent to non-opers IIRC. Notice that normal users CAN set +g. |
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W-Unit Newbie

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 83
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Posted: Oct 13, 2004 8:22pm Post subject: |
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Hmm ok that clears stuff up but I have one question...
I had a misunderstanding of Globops (I thought the "Glob" part of it indicated that it sent the message globally, as in to all IRC Operators on the network, rather than Global IRCops)...so...do they both send the messages to the entire network?
I kinda had a hunch that Wallops was local and Globops was global but I may be wrong.
Also, since Globops refers to Global IRCops, I guess it means Locops could also be network wide huh?
And in testing Wallops and Globops on a normal user with +wg they could see Wallops but not Globops. |
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aquanight Lurker

Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Boise, ID
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Posted: Oct 13, 2004 10:23pm Post subject: |
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| Well, Locops are notices sent to all +g opers on the same server. Globops are sent to all +g opers on all servers. Wallops are sent to all +w users on all servers. There are a few rare server-generated globops that are sent to +g-oO users. |
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Plasma Newbie

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 63
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Posted: Oct 14, 2004 9:19pm Post subject: |
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| aquanight wrote: | | There are a few rare Globops that are sent to non-opers IIRC. Notice that normal users CAN set +g. |
Nope, thats +w
Only opers may set +g to themselves. |
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w00t Eleet

Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 699 Location: Nowra, Australia
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Posted: Oct 14, 2004 10:07pm Post subject: |
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Wrong. Use Unreal
As a non-opered client:
| Code: | [14:07:06] <debug incoming> :w00t_ MODE w00t_ :+g
[14:07:06] <debug incoming> :w00t_ MODE w00t_ :+g
[14:07:06] <debug incoming> :zap.netronet.com 221 w00t_ +iwgx
[14:07:06] *** Usermodes for w00t_: +iwgx |
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Plasma Newbie

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 63
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Posted: Oct 15, 2004 2:28am Post subject: |
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That must be a bug (Ive just tried this myself on my Unreal server).
The usermode can be set, but they still cannot send/receive globops messages. |
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aquanight Lurker

Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Boise, ID
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Posted: Oct 15, 2004 8:23am Post subject: |
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| Try reading my posts. There are a few rare server generated GlobOps that normal users can see. You'll have to look for them however. |
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w00t Eleet

Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 699 Location: Nowra, Australia
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 7:43am Post subject: |
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| Yus, its been discussed on the Unreal bugs forum already Plasma. |
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aquanight Lurker

Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Boise, ID
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 10:19pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, and in addition, there's a server-server command to request a NOTICE be sent to all users with a given usermode. Services could use this to say, do SMO g :This message is like GLOBOPS, but all users can see it, not just opers. (This is probably more typically used for something like SMO o :This goes to all ircops regardless of snomasks, +g, +w, +h, whatever.) |
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W-Unit Newbie

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 83
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Posted: Oct 24, 2004 5:19pm Post subject: |
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| aquanight wrote: | | Oh, and in addition, there's a server-server command to request a NOTICE be sent to all users with a given usermode. Services could use this to say, do SMO g :This message is like GLOBOPS, but all users can see it, not just opers. (This is probably more typically used for something like SMO o :This goes to all ircops regardless of snomasks, +g, +w, +h, whatever.) |
Wow.
I did not know about the SMO command.
Wonder why the folks at Unreal decided not to document it. |
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aquanight Lurker

Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Boise, ID
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Posted: Oct 24, 2004 10:29pm Post subject: |
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| It's a server only command. |
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SandMan none

Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 10
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Posted: Oct 25, 2004 12:02am Post subject: |
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wallops <message> Sends a message to all users with umode +w
globops <message> Sends a message to all IRCops
that is straight from the Unreal 3.2 doc |
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W-Unit Newbie

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 83
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Posted: Oct 25, 2004 7:09pm Post subject: |
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| SandMan wrote: | wallops <message> Sends a message to all users with umode +w
globops <message> Sends a message to all IRCops
that is straight from the Unreal 3.2 doc |
Maybe you should read my post before correcting me.
I didn't say they didn't document wallops/globops, I said they didn't document SMO. |
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