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W-Unit
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PostPosted: Oct 12, 2004 7:46pm    Post subject: Wallops/Globops Reply with quote

I really should know this but I don't and I can't find it out, so I guess I'll just ask:

What is the difference between a /wallops and a /globops?
They both send messages to all the opers on the network (with proper SNOMASKs) right?

This is UnrealIRCd if there is any difference between IRCds.
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PostPosted: Oct 12, 2004 8:13pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Globops are notice's sent which are only viewable by global IRC operators.

Wallops are viewable by all IRC operators, in addition to, normal users who manually set their mode +w (wallops).

So basically normal users can view wallops messages too, if they elect it via usermode +w.
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PostPosted: Oct 12, 2004 9:24pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few rare Globops that are sent to non-opers IIRC. Notice that normal users CAN set +g.
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PostPosted: Oct 13, 2004 8:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm ok that clears stuff up but I have one question...

I had a misunderstanding of Globops (I thought the "Glob" part of it indicated that it sent the message globally, as in to all IRC Operators on the network, rather than Global IRCops)...so...do they both send the messages to the entire network?

I kinda had a hunch that Wallops was local and Globops was global but I may be wrong.

Also, since Globops refers to Global IRCops, I guess it means Locops could also be network wide huh?

And in testing Wallops and Globops on a normal user with +wg they could see Wallops but not Globops.
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PostPosted: Oct 13, 2004 10:23pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Locops are notices sent to all +g opers on the same server. Globops are sent to all +g opers on all servers. Wallops are sent to all +w users on all servers. There are a few rare server-generated globops that are sent to +g-oO users.
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Plasma
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PostPosted: Oct 14, 2004 9:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aquanight wrote:
There are a few rare Globops that are sent to non-opers IIRC. Notice that normal users CAN set +g.

Nope, thats +w

Only opers may set +g to themselves.
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PostPosted: Oct 14, 2004 10:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong. Use Unreal Smile

As a non-opered client:
Code:
[14:07:06] <debug incoming> :w00t_ MODE w00t_ :+g
[14:07:06] <debug incoming> :w00t_ MODE w00t_ :+g
[14:07:06] <debug incoming> :zap.netronet.com 221 w00t_ +iwgx
[14:07:06] *** Usermodes for w00t_: +iwgx
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PostPosted: Oct 15, 2004 2:28am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That must be a bug (Ive just tried this myself on my Unreal server).

The usermode can be set, but they still cannot send/receive globops messages.
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PostPosted: Oct 15, 2004 8:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try reading my posts. There are a few rare server generated GlobOps that normal users can see. You'll have to look for them however.
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 7:43am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yus, its been discussed on the Unreal bugs forum already Plasma.
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 10:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and in addition, there's a server-server command to request a NOTICE be sent to all users with a given usermode. Services could use this to say, do SMO g :This message is like GLOBOPS, but all users can see it, not just opers. (This is probably more typically used for something like SMO o :This goes to all ircops regardless of snomasks, +g, +w, +h, whatever.)
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PostPosted: Oct 24, 2004 5:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aquanight wrote:
Oh, and in addition, there's a server-server command to request a NOTICE be sent to all users with a given usermode. Services could use this to say, do SMO g :This message is like GLOBOPS, but all users can see it, not just opers. (This is probably more typically used for something like SMO o :This goes to all ircops regardless of snomasks, +g, +w, +h, whatever.)


Wow.
I did not know about the SMO command.
Wonder why the folks at Unreal decided not to document it.
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PostPosted: Oct 24, 2004 10:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a server only command.
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PostPosted: Oct 25, 2004 12:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wallops <message> Sends a message to all users with umode +w
globops <message> Sends a message to all IRCops

that is straight from the Unreal 3.2 doc
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PostPosted: Oct 25, 2004 7:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SandMan wrote:
wallops <message> Sends a message to all users with umode +w
globops <message> Sends a message to all IRCops

that is straight from the Unreal 3.2 doc


Maybe you should read my post before correcting me.
I didn't say they didn't document wallops/globops, I said they didn't document SMO.
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