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codemastr
Idler
Idler


Joined: 05 Feb 2004
Posts: 353

PostPosted: Oct 28, 2004 2:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think it is right to judge a network by its deviants. If we do this for IRC networks, we would have to do this for any group of people. So I ask, should we base our view of nations on their criminals? Regardless of what society you talk of, there are criminals there. So since there are rapists and murders in England, does this mean England is "bad"? No, it just means there are some bad people. If you want to saw that you feel these people are wrong for what they are doing, that is fine. But DALnet neither condones nor supports what they are doing. And DALnet does what it can to enforce the law. There have been many instances where DALnet has worked with the FBI to catch criminals. So I don't think you can blame DALnet for having some bad users, just like you can't blame a nation for having some bad citizens.

I agree with you, what they are doing is disgusting. But unfortunately, we reap what we sow. While freedom of speech does give upstanding people the ability to speak their minds, it also gives degenerates the ability to speak their minds as well...
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[DiMENSiON]
Eleet
Eleet


Joined: 06 Sep 2003
Posts: 617

PostPosted: Oct 28, 2004 6:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imo, England is bad but anyway..

Well of cource there are deviants and very bad ones but the deviants must be punished that's all i can say. If the network is doing nothing to stop it well then they don't deserve the good users.
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Howard
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Joined: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Nov 08, 2004 4:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[DiMENSiON] wrote:
Well of cource there are deviants and very bad ones but the deviants must be punished that's all i can say. If the network is doing nothing to stop it well then they don't deserve the good users.


The problem is to come up with a universally-acceptable definition of 'deviant'. Eating ham and eggs for breakfast, or sipping on a glass of good burgundy with your supper will suffice just fine to get you in that category in a lot of communities (and backed up by the force of law, to boot).

The larger networks look to be 'everything to everyone', and that ends up including a whole lot of folks I'd certainly not look to invite to dinner. At the same time, there are likely plenty of folks that would bar their doors and break out the 12-gauge if they were to see *me* walking up their driveway, were they knowing that I run a network where consenting adults can engage in virtual sexual activities that are a bit outside the main stream, and discuss/arrange similar activities in r/l.

What it all comes down to: if you don't approve of a given activity, then don't engage in it, and don't support those who do. If you feel strongly enough that it needs to be eradicated, by all means head for the local bluesuit shed and offer your services (don't expect to be welcomed, however, they do tend to take a dim view of civilians poaching on their turf).
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