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38% |
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55% |
[ 30 ] |
| OS-X (Or other apple o/s) |
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1% |
[ 1 ] |
| Other .. Please Specify |
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3% |
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Eleet
Joined: 06 Sep 2003
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 Posted: Aug 29, 2004 6:49am Post subject: What Operating System Are You Using? |
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| Hey folks, i was wondering who was using what operating system on their personal computers rather than servers! I would like to know what o/s type you use most! |
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katsklaw
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Joined: 28 Jun 2004
Posts: 1087
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| Posted: Aug 29, 2004 7:58am Post subject: |
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I have multiple boxes:
1- Win2k
2- FreeBSD
1- Mac OS X |
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Ashen
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Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 285
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| Posted: Sep 03, 2004 8:54pm Post subject: |
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Linux, always, even on desktops :)
-Ashen |
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aquanight
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Joined: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 118
Location: Boise, ID
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| Posted: Sep 04, 2004 12:32am Post subject: |
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Windows XP.
I want to find a decent linux kernel I can run in VMware or something so as to learn it :/ . |
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blueice
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Joined: 07 Oct 2003
Posts: 34
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| Posted: Sep 06, 2004 2:30am Post subject: |
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Windows XP. Feels lots better with SP2.
Linux/FreeBSD is for work, but at home I want a colorful pretty plushy comfy & playful desktop  |
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katsklaw
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Joined: 28 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sep 06, 2004 8:22am Post subject: |
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| aquanight wrote: | Windows XP.
I want to find a decent linux kernel I can run in VMware or something so as to learn it :/ . |
dual booting is better than emulation, at least in my opinion. Emulators are inherantly slower than a native install. Since your talking about 2 x86 OS's there is no need for emulation. Linux would only need a gig or so of HDD space, then you could use FAT on the XP side and mount the XP partition in Linux to use the whole drive. NTFS can be mounted as well but last I heard NTFS is mounted in read only not read/write. Dual booting is also legally free.  whereas VMware isn't.
It would be different if you was to use an emulator on a Mac to run windows or vice versa. |
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blueice
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| Posted: Sep 06, 2004 6:16pm Post subject: |
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| katsklaw wrote: | | It would be different if you was to use an emulator on a Mac to run windows or vice versa. |
Macs! Yuk.
With all respect, but for my part I can't get used to that one-button mouse. Feels like trying to type, wearing boxing gloves! |
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Talrias
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Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 163
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| Posted: Sep 06, 2004 6:42pm Post subject: |
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There was a discussion about macs and one button mice on Slashdot recently, you can of course use a two-button mouse and bind command to the right mouse button (that's the context menu normally AFAIK).
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katsklaw
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| Posted: Sep 06, 2004 7:47pm Post subject: |
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| Talrias wrote: | There was a discussion about macs and one button mice on Slashdot recently, you can of course use a two-button mouse and bind command to the right mouse button (that's the context menu normally AFAIK).
Chris |
This is correct, I believe it was OS 8 that started a command click menu, which would be the Mac solution to Windows right click. OS X which is based on BSD's Mach 4 kernel continues such a menu and the retail version comes with OS 9 so that you can run in classic mode and run OS 9 apps in OS X. |
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aquanight
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Joined: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 118
Location: Boise, ID
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| Posted: Sep 08, 2004 9:19am Post subject: |
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| katsklaw wrote: | | dual booting is better than emulation, at least in my opinion. Emulators are inherantly slower than a native install. |
True... but I can't be arsed with mucking with partitions :/ . Then there are the fun questions of which should be installed first, which should have how much space, which filesystem to use (I refuse to use a FAT* system again! But NTFS in readonly... I doubt I'd need write access anyway.), where should the swap partition go, how big should the swap partition be and still leave space for two operating systems, is it possible to share the swap partition, etc etc and when my current OS drive is only 10GB (and currently 3GB free with just WinXP + various apps!).... UGH. It's fun ;p . There's also the problem that I can't use both operating systems at the same time ;P . With an emulator, I can, plus I don't have fun partitioning headaches. 
BTW: there as an opensource linux emulator... but when I tried it, it wasn't quite 100% stable I think... example, if the kernel in the emulator crashed, it can bring down the whole system  . |
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GenesisX
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Joined: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 3
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Right now, I'm using Windows XP Home Edition (I can hear you all shuddering all the way here in Florida, USA). However, I plan on eventually using Linux. I've used Red Hat and Mandrake Linux in the past, and I really enjoy the power that the Linux OS gives you. I also enjoy the stability of the Linux OS. It's great to have your PC not crash every five seconds
The only problem is the fact that my dad also uses my computer, and he's semi-computer illiterate. So, I may just buy and install Windows 2000 Professional. I've used Win 2000 Pro at my college (South Florida Community College) and I believe it is the best version of Windows to come out in a long time. 
P.S. If I get a new box any time soon you can bet your bottom dollar I'm installing Slackware 10 |
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codemastr
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Joined: 05 Feb 2004
Posts: 353
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Why would someone shutter about that? I've tried several flavors of Linux, I didn't like any of them. Yeah, Linux is stable, but to me, it still has the feel of something that was designed to be hard to use. My biggest gripe was its handling of floppy disks. Disks are probably the oldest technology still around, let Linux still can't support them in a user friendly way. For example, you have to right click the desktop and tell it to mount the floppy drive. Now the drive is active. Now you create a file on the disk. And then you pull the disk out after clicking save. Well guess what? Your file wasn't saved! If you don't unmount the floppy before removing it, nothing is saved. That just seems like a needless hastle to me. And let me tell you, when you're working on a homework assignment, and you hand it in and get a 0 because your professor tells you the disk was blank, it certainly doesn't make you like Linux!
Anyway, I use XP Home Edition too, and I'm quite happy with it. It's stable, it supports all my programs, and it *can* deal with floppy disks in a user friendly manner! |
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Rob_
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Joined: 13 Dec 2003
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I figured i should post after just reading your thread about giving other irc clients a "real" chance, not just trying them for 2 mins, but finding out how things are done, and trying it...
To get the behaviour you want in a floppy, just mount that floppy disk with the -o sync option, this can be added to your fstab to make it "automatic" etc... that way every write will be wrote directly to the disk, without cache'ing it. That coupled with a simple automout option so it will automatically try to mount the disk on first access, just as windows does, would make it operate exactly the same way windows does....
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katsklaw
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Joined: 28 Jun 2004
Posts: 1087
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| Posted: Sep 12, 2004 7:56am Post subject: |
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| Rob_ wrote: | I figured i should post after just reading your thread about giving other irc clients a "real" chance, not just trying them for 2 mins, but finding out how things are done, and trying it...
To get the behaviour you want in a floppy, just mount that floppy disk with the -o sync option, this can be added to your fstab to make it "automatic" etc... that way every write will be wrote directly to the disk, without cache'ing it. That coupled with a simple automout option so it will automatically try to mount the disk on first access, just as windows does, would make it operate exactly the same way windows does....
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I think his underlying point is ... you shouldn't *have* to do all that .. it should be done for you at install .. you don't have to manually un/mount HDD's. We all know that that *nix can detect the drive .. but due to lack of foresight (IMO) it's not done for removable media drives (well not in all flavors anyways). |
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codemastr
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Joined: 05 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sep 12, 2004 10:46am Post subject: |
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| Rob_ wrote: | I figured i should post after just reading your thread about giving other irc clients a "real" chance, not just trying them for 2 mins, but finding out how things are done, and trying it...
To get the behaviour you want in a floppy, just mount that floppy disk with the -o sync option, this can be added to your fstab to make it "automatic" etc... that way every write will be wrote directly to the disk, without cache'ing it. That coupled with a simple automout option so it will automatically try to mount the disk on first access, just as windows does, would make it operate exactly the same way windows does....
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Rob, well I didn't just try Linux for 2 minutes, in fact I still have it installed on one machine. I ran Linux as a "primary" OS for about 6 months before I decided it wasn't for me. And you're absolutely right, there are ways to do what I want, my point was that, as katsklaw said, I shouldn't have to. In theory, there is always a way to make Linux do whatever I want... I can go in and modify the source code. However, that shouldn't be necessary in most cases. Removable media I/O is one of the most basic features of a system. I'm sure Linux's method is more efficient (floppies aren't exactly fast to write to), but it's not user friendly. In my mind, the system should be reversed. It defaults to the way Windows does it, and can be optionally switched to the way Linux currently does it.
I'm sure most of the stuff I use in Windows, Linux can do. Linux would be stupid not to implement the popular features of Windows, so I'm sure they are buried in there somewhere. But, the keyword is buried. I never even looked at the fstab file. I used the X Win (Nautilus really) command to do it from the GUI. From the GUI, it doesn't give me any option to say "sync on disk immediately." You really have to go digging.
It wasn't really an issue of "Can Linux do this?" it was more an issue of "Linux should make this easier."
Don't get me wrong though, Linux certainly has its strong points. I use Linux on all my server machines. However, as a desktop OS, I'm sticking with Windows for the forseeable future. |
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