Why did you start your network?

[hellion] · none Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 3

hello everyone..

1st post ever here so be nice to me hehe!

so yeah i started my little network about 2 years ago..
for perosnal use i downloaded all the best big name ircd
to test and see what all the fuss was about..
before then i hadnt really used irc on a day to day basis..
so im in there all alone.. mesing around..
i invited a friend.. who then invited one of his friends..
and so on and so forth.. i within a week i had 20+ users
all going happy for maybe 6 months..
then i started looking for links..
most of which havent turned out well ..
people setting up ircds on local machines..
thinking they are the gods of irc..
been through the mill with power hungry admins/opers/links.
so now i have decided to go it alone..
and start a fresh.. only last week i squit my linked network..
of 70+ users to go alone.. so now.. i have 3 users Neutral

this is nt a problem though im looking forward to the
whole starting again thing.. only this time.. i shall do it all correctly.. Wink

main reasons why i carry on with my network
1. so i can do things my own way..
2. to make new friends and meet new interesting people..
3. to provide a quality secure safe network.. for everyone..
4. to try and bring some fun to everyones life..

so yeah thats about it..
i dont think my network is any different from anybody elses network here.. but if you are looking for a nice place to park your bottom..
come and join us hehe.. pm me for the address because i dont think
i can post it yet.. as i havent been accepted yet by searchirc.. Smile

ps im not interested in linking..
but we are looking for new users Very Happy

[Hellion]

MrBurns · Posted: Jun 24, 2006 11:25am Post subject:

lol hi again [hellion] seems I run into ya again...

Anyways the reason why I started my own network around 5 years ago was because I was fed up being kicked off other networks because the IRCops there thought they could do anything.

Got kicked off one network cuz I didn't like one of the IRCop's drawings (can you think of a lamer reason?)
Got kicked off another network cuz I got too much influence there and the co-owner got a bit jealous and decided to screw me over.
And last but not least: Got kicked off a Christian network for not being Christian enough... "God bless us all"

So I decided to become my own boss (first on IRC, now I'm also one in Real Life ©2006) so I could run my gamebots and chat with my friends without some jerk interfering.

Aven · Idler Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 393

MrBurns · Posted: Jun 25, 2006 5:12am Post subject:

I got to admit it's very tempting to kill or gline people Wink

However, I find it more amuzing to let them think I'm just another user and swear and get really pissed before they get so tired of it they leave on their own.

One particulat phrase that always piss lamers off: "come again?" and then just repeat that over and over. I once kept somebody swearing and threatening for almost half an hour straight that way before he realized that he was wasting his time.

Another time I had the auto-talk bot I created myself in a channel when some Turkish guy came in and did the thing most Turkish guys with nicks like "loverboy" or "superstud" do the moment they come in... start PM'ing people with stuff like "hi wanna sex me?" or "hi, asl? wanna cyber?".
So the bot which was specificly designed to respond to this ( I named my bot Michelle to attract such people ) replied accordingly and kept the guy chatting for 40 minutes before he realized he was talking to a bot, and once he did he spend another 20 minutes swearing at it (getting replies from the bot to that too of course) before he finally left.

So yeah, kicking and banning and killing and glining can make you feel good and powerful, but playing with people's minds is so much more fun Very Happy

SebasMiles · none Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 30

Although I am not a netadmin or part of the team that founded the net, I thought Id still comment on it. Our network was started for a simple purpose, to minimize the oper abuse which is the main cause for drama. Therefore our network is called NoDramaIRC. Although I only came to this net several months after it had started, I agreed with its opers, and i finally found a net that i really liked and wanted to be a part of. So I linked to it, and after a while I was promoted to services admin(As part of the revamp of the net to be more flexible after a bigger net merged into it). I helped in any way I could, and learned new things to help the network, but in particular I am part of the abuse team. Although abuse is always a part of a network, it was our objective to minimize it. At times I wasnt the most liked by some of the other opers, because I was very strict on those that had done an infraction. My main objective was to be very tolerant and very helpfull, however at times I did have to suspend some olines and such.
We have very little abuse, you barelly ever see anyone get glined. And never for unjustified reasons that have to be checked by an abuse staff member. And I am glad to say, that the abuse channel is very quiet.

PS. Yes its very tempting to gline/kill someone for being a pain in the ass, but you have to set an example. and even when youre justified, try to give the guy another chance and ask him to be nice. And like I tell my opers, there is always the /ignore command.

Scire · Newbie Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 84 Location: IRC

SebasMiles · none Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 30

marc · Posted: Jun 28, 2006 12:25am Post subject:

I dont have much of an actual reason to start my network, except for the fact that I could. It provides a place for me to logon to when I'm at work and chat to a couple of friends I have, rather than finding a client for my cellphone for MSN. My family also connect to the IRC Network I "own".

That said, I don't have the title of Network Administrator, considering I run ircu.

My friend and I used to have dialup connections, a long time ago when I was living in a different country. Unreal 2.1 I think, was the version of the IRCd we used to just piss around on, with daylight irc services on Windows. That was fun.

I now help a friend admin his shell company, so I was told i had free roam to his systems. (bonus, unlimited shell accounts? what more could someone ask for?) -- but alas, i don't have much to do with other networks these days, because the most I've seen...they do things I don't like too much. I'm very pedantic about how things are on a network. If things aren't setup correctly, I don't tend to hang around much.

I know that I can't talk for all networks running out there, but some I've been on have little things that irritate. Alternating caps in server names are annoying, for example.

MrBurns · Posted: Jun 28, 2006 9:15am Post subject:

Yeah brilliant idea for an IRC operator to use /ignore... this way you can't see what the troublemaker in question is typing, which means you're no longer able to correct this person if needed.
If any of my IRCops would use the /ignore command, they wouldn't be IRCop for much longer. There's a difference between "ignoring" and "ignorant"

FuRiOuS · Lurker Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 244

I would have to agree with MrBurns. If they are already causing trouble why would someone with the abilty to help control the situation be allowed to just freely walk away like that? If it's something an IRCop isn't supposed to handle, then just have the balls to say so, instead of hiding behind the /ignore command. Be adult enough to say, sorry not my job talk to the channels ops it's their show to do as they please. Don't just turn your head and wonder later on why a simple problem suddenly turned ugly for reasons unknown to you because you were ignoring the person.

MrBurns · Posted: Jun 28, 2006 12:16pm Post subject:

Just for these kinds of "incidents" I have come up with a simple rule:

Channel ops are responsible for the channels, IRCops are responsible for the network.

IRCops are not to interfere with the channel unless there are no opers present or the person in the channel starts flooding or attacking other users (exploits or whatever) since it then becomes a network issue.

Scire · Newbie Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 84 Location: IRC

SebasMiles · none Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 30

There are ALOT of reasons for using ignore. Not everyone has the patience that I or you might have. The regular user may be a pest, but he may not be breaking any rules on the net. At times some users try to edge on particular ircops because they know that the ircop has a short temper, at other times the ircop has previous problems with that user and any comment or action brings their wrath. We cant always control our ircops, of course these are only a few, so I provide them with options on what they can do. The net I am on is big enough to have enough opers around so that the ircop in question can ignore the ranting kid and there is still others watching what he is doing. On larger nets, many ircops tend to just be link owners and friends, which have no real role other than helping out every so often, so having them ignore users is alot less of a problem than have the possibility of going nuts and glining people. As I said, abuse exists everywhere, but I like to provide options not be part of the problem.

SebasMiles · none Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 30

MrBurns · Posted: Jun 29, 2006 3:02am Post subject:

A lot of times people get banned for "pissing off an ircop". It happened to me plenty of times Razz

But instead of /ignore I would do *$me sets channel mode +m