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XVar
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 6:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It forces them into a chan so that all the spambots are in one place, and can't do anything. Sure, they can just reconnect but they'll end up straight back there as soon as they spam again. It's quite a clever system.
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magpie
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 7:36am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just wondering why they need to be forced into a channel to stop them from doing anything. I assume that you would generally specify a local channel, otherwise you just have the problem of massive bursts again I'd have thought.
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XVar
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 9:44am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bots generally join random large channels, and spam all the users in that channel. So forcing them into a channel that they can't part, and can't talk to anyone except IRCops in that channel, stops them from doing anything, and they don't usually reconnect until their connection is dropped so it's quite an effective method to prevent spam.
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magpie
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 9:58am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know what these spambots usually do. I was just questioning why it was decided to force them into a channel rather than simply stopping them from doing anything without forcing them into it. Just curious about the reasoning behind that decision.
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XVar
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 11:42am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just easier, and also gives you a view of how many spambots you have on the network. Btw I live in Birmingham too. (Well, Sutton Coldfield, near Birmingham)
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magpie
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 12:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birmingham, or perhaps the West Midlands conurbation in general, seems to be an IRC hotspot. The cluster I opered on had several members from both Birmingham and Coventry, and several of the regulars in channels I frequent are also from the area. As to why we all seem to flock towards this place I don't know.... :)
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XVar
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 4:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, one of our opers is from Coventry, and one lives about 2 miles from my house aha. Funny how you meet people who live so close on IRC.
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magpie
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 4:53pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it more disturbing than funny. ;)
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Ultimate_Kaiser
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2006 8:24pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bah
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MOVIEBOT
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PostPosted: Feb 13, 2006 4:05am    Post subject: Reply with quote

who cares!!! lol all you need a re good filters Razz
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Jacksplat
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PostPosted: Mar 19, 2006 2:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can protect yourself from attacks if you want to spend the coin, or have the skills. And as for traffic, focus on Quality over Quantity.
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fattony
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PostPosted: May 13, 2006 3:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uchat wrote:
Not all networks want to be the size of DALnet.


Not to sound insulting, because that's not my goal, but my observations have told me that most networks that say that are just trying to make an excuse as to why they're small.
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PingBad
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PostPosted: May 17, 2006 9:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fattony wrote:
uchat wrote:
Not all networks want to be the size of DALnet.


Not to sound insulting, because that's not my goal, but my observations have told me that most networks that say that are just trying to make an excuse as to why they're small.
More users = a larger, more diverse, set of needs to satisfy. Consider:

you have a 10 person network, 8 of them want a certain feature added, 2 are completely opposed to the proposed change(s)... that gives you either 8 or 2 people who are going to be outraged depending on your decision and your own judgements... now try to imagine a 1000 user network, 800 want that feature added, 150 dont, and 50 just dont care. can you imagine trying to calm 150 irate users if you agree to the proposal, or 800 if you disagree?
Good luck
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shadowkaos
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PostPosted: May 28, 2006 2:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
an you imagine trying to calm 150 irate users if you agree to the proposal, or 800 if you disagree?
Good luck



That would be one angry mob *hides in corner*
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XB
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PostPosted: Jul 08, 2006 7:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there is a brand new IRC protocol currently being designed. The design for it came from a april fools prank from mIRC which we loved so much were actually releasing a rfc for it which is due for a release in a few years, btw anyone who has knowledge in VoIP and knows about the IRC protocol join irc.flameirc.net and find me and join the new era of IRC when it gets released.
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