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BluScooby
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PostPosted: Dec 22, 2005 1:22am    Post subject: Stay!! Reply with quote

IRC Better Stay!!! Id Go NUTS!!!!!
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shadow16
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PostPosted: Dec 22, 2005 4:38am    Post subject: Re: Stay!! Reply with quote

BluScooby wrote:
IRC Better Stay!!! Id Go NUTS!!!!!

There will always be IRC. As long as there's internet, computers, and irc fans, there will always be IRCds running. Wink
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PingBad
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PostPosted: Dec 23, 2005 4:02am    Post subject: Re: Stay!! Reply with quote

shadow16 wrote:
BluScooby wrote:
IRC Better Stay!!! Id Go NUTS!!!!!

There will always be IRC. As long as there's internet, computers, and irc fans, there will always be IRCds running. Wink
Well, let's hope so. However, there are people using IRCds for the wrong purposes (xDCC springs to mind here) and that is giving IRC as a whole unwanted attention from corporate groups like the RIAA and MPAA. Say that 1 in every 10 networks was xDCC friendly, the RIAA could armbend the US govt into shutting down IRC Networks at their whim (regardless of geographical location).

I'm not saying this will, but it can happen… imagine the effect of such legislation on non-xDCC networks, the RIAA (quite possibly) would place IRC networks in the same bucket of suspect pirates and wouldn't relent on investigating every single network until one xDCC fileserver bot is found, and use that one bad bot as justification to shut down the entire IRC network, wether or not the Network Owner(s) wanted it there, or put it there.
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shadow16
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PostPosted: Dec 23, 2005 4:06am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at torrent sites. They keep shutting them down but new ones pop up. People could run IRC networks secretly. Wink
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magpie
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PostPosted: Dec 23, 2005 5:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankfully US law doesn't apply across the rest of the world. Still, people could always use those completely pointless "if you're an FBI person, disconnect now!" notices like on those warez FTP servers a while back. ;)
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FBI
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PostPosted: Dec 23, 2005 1:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magpie wrote:
Thankfully US law doesn't apply across the rest of the world. Still, people could always use those completely pointless "if you're an FBI person, disconnect now!" notices like on those warez FTP servers a while back. Wink


i am.... Wink Wink

Hmmm...Personally I think that the ISP should be responsbile for the rooted boxes....They can warn there customors that there infected and gives em 10 days to remove it or they'll disconnect the persons rooted box...
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PingBad
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PostPosted: Dec 24, 2005 4:56am    Post subject: Reply with quote

magpie wrote:
Thankfully US law doesn't apply across the rest of the world.
I did mention "irrelevent of geographical location" in my stipulation Wink
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magpie
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PostPosted: Dec 24, 2005 5:29am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with FBI, I'd like to see ISPs taking a far greater responsibility in disconnecting infected users, as well as abusive users. I remember the huge problems QuakeNet had when attempting to communicate with people like T-Online, they simply didn't want to know.
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sumitawal
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PostPosted: Dec 28, 2005 4:27pm    Post subject: ? Reply with quote

chk CuteBangla or CuteBD or OntoreBangla Network & chat their
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TheKiller
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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2006 11:24am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IRC is going to life forever k? k.
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S|rus
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PostPosted: Jan 10, 2006 9:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as IRC is here, I'll have an internet connection. Other than that, it's just spam, spam, and even more spam to me.

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chasingsol
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PostPosted: Jan 10, 2006 10:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shadow16 wrote:
Look at torrent sites. They keep shutting them down but new ones pop up. People could run IRC networks secretly. Wink


The irony of your statement was amusing. I actually run an IRC network that's dedicated to peer to peer sites. It's not a massive network (around 2000 users on a good day), we don't allow filesharing on the network (that's what their sites do) and while the network is primarily directed at peer to peer communities, we welcome everyone. We started off much smaller, but we're at a nice size now but not so big that it's become impersonal. The sites that have channels there seem to enjoy our network, the network staff are friendly, helpful and visible but never interfere and we're well thought of in the peer to peer community. We've found a nice niche for ourselves and I can see our network existing for some time to come. I don't think IRC will ever die, but networks have to do what is best for their users. It's often overlooked by network staff that the users are what makes the network what it is. You keep them happy, you'll always have a nice network. I hear horror stories of small IRC networks having staff that go around kicking/banning people from channels that they have on their network, completely overriding the wishes of the channel ops. That's the quickest way to make sure your small slice of IRC heaven gets a bad reputation and attracts the wrong kind of attention. Sure, we've been the target of DDoS attacks on a few occasions, but having stable servers in datacenters that can filter this type of attack lessens the inconvenience to our users. Without wanting to sound conceited, the largest attack we ever had was greater than 1 million packets per second directed at one of our servers, and it didn't drop a single client due to the attack. You get what you pay for when it comes to somewhere to host your IRC server. I know many people run IRC servers from their home connections. To those of you, keep it small to lessen possible exposure or you'll regret it when some packet kiddie comes along and takes out your entire network.
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twirl
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2006 12:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I use to use dalnet/efnet alot but where did all the spam come from? When i first used dalnet there was hardly any spam Sad

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XVar
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Joined: 21 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2006 6:54pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spam came from spammers realising the IRC is a huge largely unmoderated medium ready for them to spam the URL to their latest dodgy porn site or whatever. We've got it pretty much under control on our network, most of our opers know how to correctly add a spamfilter and as soon as a user reports spam it gets acted on quickly.

For anyone running an Unreal net and suffering from a lot of spam bots, the viruschan spamfilter option is great, when it catches them it forces them into a channel you specify and they cant do anything except disconnect. Therefore negating the need for HUGE G/Z:line lists (we had about 15000 entries at one point, servers took FOREVER to sync). Moving to viruschan spamfilters was definately a good move.
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magpie
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2006 4:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote

15,000 entries doesn't seem that much to me, although as I'm unaware of the size of your userbase I don't know how that can be expressed as a percentage of it. Also, how come the module forces them into a channel?
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