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Julio
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 Posted: Apr 07, 2004 8:56am Post subject: modify GNU/GPL code |
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Yes, I think that this is their spirit, of all the GNU/GPL products, but please, respect the credits of the people before u, and type ur own credits, upload ur information.
We can be of internet a place to share.
The best regards
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Horizon
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| Posted: Apr 07, 2004 9:21am Post subject: |
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| I couldnt agree more. Give credit where credit's due. Removing somones name from their own work is not only unethical, but it breaks the GPL license. Unfortunantly I dont think i lot of people understand the concept of open source. ( especially some people i've seen on these boards ) |
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DjMadness-
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| Posted: Apr 07, 2004 9:43am Post subject: |
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| Horizon wrote: | | I couldnt agree more. Give credit where credit's due. Removing somones name from their own work is not only unethical, but it breaks the GPL license. Unfortunantly I dont think i lot of people understand the concept of open source. ( especially some people i've seen on these boards ) |
me my self do not know the GPL rules yet, but i still keep credits there, due to my respect for the coders.
BTW, could someone post a site where i can read the GPL as a bedtime story ?? 
Need to read it some day
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Horizon
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DjMadness-
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| Posted: Apr 07, 2004 11:07am Post subject: |
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Thx there m8, gonna read it asap |
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Julia
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| Posted: Aug 15, 2004 9:50am Post subject: |
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besides the websites
GPL or LGPL must be INCLUDED IN EVERY COPY of the GPL'ed (LGPL'ed)
software. It a GPL software dont has it included - IT BREAKS the license.
all ircd's based on the original work of Jarkko Oikarinen and the rest are (MUST BE) GPL'ed |
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codemastr
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| Posted: Aug 15, 2004 10:57am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | all ircd's based on the original work of Jarkko Oikarinen and the rest are (MUST BE) GPL'ed |
That's not entirely true. Software can be relicensed. If the author of the GPLed code gives you permission to use it in a non-GPLed product, then it is 100% fine. |
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w00t
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| Posted: Aug 15, 2004 5:50pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm. That's news to me. And what about the LGPL? |
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Julia
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| Posted: Aug 16, 2004 5:30am Post subject: |
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| codemastr wrote: |
That's not entirely true. Software can be relicensed. If the author of the GPLed code gives you permission to use it in a non-GPLed product, then it is 100% fine.
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Yes under some circumstances parts of code may be relicensed as is in source headers..
but what once came in GPL/LGPL and didnt contained any license addendums (i seldom see any) must remain GPL. Or show me the part of GPL that allows changing licensing... |
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katsklaw
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| Posted: Aug 16, 2004 5:48am Post subject: |
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| Julia wrote: | | codemastr wrote: |
That's not entirely true. Software can be relicensed. If the author of the GPLed code gives you permission to use it in a non-GPLed product, then it is 100% fine.
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Yes under some circumstances parts of code may be relicensed as is in source headers..
but what once came in GPL/LGPL and didnt contained any license addendums (i seldom see any) must remain GPL. Or show me the part of GPL that allows changing licensing... |
GPL software does not have to remain GPL, as codemastr said you may get the authors permission to change the license. Also GPL it's self allows for license changes so long as the license is GPL compatible ( http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ModifyGPL ).
Example would be from GPL to the new BSD license is perfectly acceptable. This can be found in the GPL FAQ ( http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#OrigBSD ) |
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Julia
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| Posted: Aug 16, 2004 1:47pm Post subject: |
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thats an eye opening experience... thanks
I want to add Artistic to GPL'ed.. seem i can do it *smile* |
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Rob_
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| Posted: Aug 17, 2004 12:57am Post subject: |
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Only the copyright holder(s) / original author(s) (in agreement) could change from the GPL to the BSD license, and even then, the code already released under the GPL is still under the GPL (they can release it again, under a diffrent license, but anyone who downloaded it while it was under the GPL still has all the rights the GPL gave them). The means that someone who just happens to have found some GPL'ed code, can NOT just change the license to the BSD license (or anything else), and ignore the GPL. |
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codemastr
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| Posted: Aug 17, 2004 11:37am Post subject: |
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Yeah I don't know where he got that idea, but he certainly didn't get it from the FSF, http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCConsider
| Quote: | Consider this situation: 1. X releases V1 of a project under the GPL. 2. Y contributes to the development of V2 with changes and new code based on V1. 3. X wants to convert V2 to a non-GPL license. Does X need Y's permission?
Yes. Y was required to release its version under the GNU GPL, as a consequence of basing it on X's version V1. Nothing required Y to agree to any other license for its code. Therefore, X must get Y's permission before releasing that code under another license. |
It clearly says that if you modify a program, you need the author's permission to change the license. |
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Julia
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| Posted: Aug 17, 2004 12:14pm Post subject: |
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exactly what i was thought about...
speaking closely to irc stuff.. ircd is combined work of many authors and is under GPL
i doubt you can get permission from all of them.
How about addendum? as for GPL+Artistic ?
I.e. the corework is under GPL and a patch to it under artistic? |
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Rob_
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| Posted: Aug 17, 2004 12:37pm Post subject: |
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| Julia wrote: | exactly what i was thought about...
speaking closely to irc stuff.. ircd is combined work of many authors and is under GPL
i doubt you can get permission from all of them.
How about addendum? as for GPL+Artistic ?
I.e. the corework is under GPL and a patch to it under artistic? |
A patch to the program would be a dirivited work, it must be released under the GPL as well. Just out of curiosity, what is "Artistic" and why would you rather use it instead of the GPL? (not that you have that choice) |
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