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darth android
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 8:37pm    Post subject: new java applet Reply with quote

hey, i've used the jPilot and PJIRC. PJIRC is much better, not to mention free! it has a nicer GUI, and possibly more controls than jPilot (dont know, havent set up jPilot before, only used it here).

you can see what PJIRC is like at my site (its set up to log into #draognfire on quakenet
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once there, just click on the chat link

for those few that care, there are no ads
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Mary
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 8:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were very impressed by PJIRC. Its a nice LOOKING client, and has a lot of nice features. A few months ago we tried switching to PJIRC as the main SearchIRC java client, but unfortunately we had a lot of problems and complaints from users. It was very slow loading, didn't load for everyone, and was quite buggy even for users who managed to launch it and connect to the channel. In fact we had so many complaints from we took it down after just one day (SearchIRC gets about 20,000 users connecting to IRC through the java client in a day, so it got a fair workout). We went back to JPilot. Its a simple, sturdy and very safe client for people who are new to IRC, like to cruise around different networks, or just want to pop in to one of their regular channels for a chat.

We are in process of upgrading the jpilot client - the latest version has dcc (whoohoo!) and copy and paste.


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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 9:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and one more thing... if you want to link to your channel through SearchIRC, all you need is a short line of html in your website:

#SearchIRC
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darth android
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 9:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the link, but im trying to keep everything to 1 server plus it allows me more control.

i dont really notice the delay of loading, because i spend 60 seconds (seems longer when you are sitting in fromt of your computer doing nothing) or so just logging into quakenet (i think it has to do with the IDentd, not sure).

i havent ever had trouble with it or a comlaint about it (a complaint saying that PJIRC said it couldnt connect has to do with the user's connection, right?).

grrr...,cant ppl keep up to date with teh latest JVM? what is this world coming to...
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ed
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 9:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A problem with PJIRC occurs when a user using MS Java and MSIE 5.5 occur if the user selects the Remember for next time checkbox in the security window, and then click accept.

PJIRC is the java client used for the MetaIRC.net java chat creator, and for most users, it works fine.


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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 11:11pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We were very impressed by PJIRC. Its a nice LOOKING client, and has a lot of nice features. A few months ago we tried switching to PJIRC as the main SearchIRC java client, but unfortunately we had a lot of problems and complaints from users. It was very slow loading, didn't load for everyone, and was quite buggy even for users who managed to launch it and connect to the channel.


Really? I've used PJIRC a lot, I've never experienced any problems. Ok, yeah there were minor bugs, but as soon as I reported them, the author fixed them. And yeah, PJIRC does take a little more time to load than jPilot does, but jPilot is much more minimalistic. But the thing is, if you just say "it's buggy, I'm not using it" then you're really causing more of a problem. As I said, the PJIRC author was more than happy to help. If people would have reported these bugs to him, I'm sure they would have been fixed.

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We are in process of upgrading the jpilot client - the latest version has dcc (whoohoo!) and copy and paste.

Yeah, that dcc will certainly change the "safe" quality you mentioned. If mIRC has taught us anything it's that dcc breeds bugs. Also, if you've seen the copy and paste feature, it's kind of poorly implemented. There are of course no right click menus as are very common in Windows, and, unless you use IE, it doesn't seem that it even really adds it to the Windows clipboard.

But then again, I was never really impressed with jPilot to begin with. I could never quite understand why a very minimal Java applet IRC client such as jPilot costs more than twice what the registration fee is for most full blown Windows IRC clients...
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 11:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The primary reason we had to pull PJIRC was due to the fact that the applet usually worked the first time a user visited a page, but if he visited a second time, the applet wouldn't load without the user doing a shift+reload.

It didn't happen to everyone, but it happened enough that we couldn't use it.

Maybe the new one has since fixed it... I don't know.
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ed
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 11:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/me notes the PJIRC web site is still down.
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2004 11:53pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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/me notes the PJIRC web site is still down.


Indeed, actually though, I talked to the PJIRC author earlier today about this. He said that it was technical difficulties (a payment didn't arrive on time or something) and PJIRC is not dead.
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PostPosted: Mar 31, 2004 12:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good cause PJIRC is a good client Smile imho better the jpilot.
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PostPosted: Apr 02, 2004 3:55am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the latest PJIRC (well, there might have been a newer one, but the site's down atm, and yes, I know why as well) , version 2.0.0.

it seems to be less buggy than the old version I had (forgot which version) and now it can connect to multiple servers, which officially makes it beat jpilot.

and I hear jpilot's stuff is spyware.

and it might load faster if you use a slimmer config and create or download a smaller gui


also, btw, I'm trying to get a web form on the page the applet is on to send files to the user as well, seeing as sending files doesnt have a native dialog on the applet (only when recieving it has a save dialog.) if anyone has done that and knows javascript please help me out.
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Jason
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PostPosted: Apr 02, 2004 7:56am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes you say jpilot is spyware?

Also, the new jpilot now has dcc, copy&paste as well as a few other goodies.
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PostPosted: Apr 02, 2004 11:00am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how true it is, but I've heard that if someone tries to run jPilot on a machine it is not licensed to, the author is notified. But as I said, I have never tested myself.
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PostPosted: Apr 02, 2004 11:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know anything about that, but our copy is registered.

Quote:
spyware is computer software that gathers information about a computer user without the user's knowledge or informed consent, and then transmits this information to an organisation that expects to be able to profit from it in some way


Any rate, if the applet notified the author that a website hasn't registered, that doesn't exactly fit the desc of spyware since it's not gathering info about the user and what the user is doing.
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PostPosted: Apr 02, 2004 5:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.jwirc.com

They have a java client that is cheaper and better IMHO, and a free client that works very well..

http://www.animesoup.com/as_chat to see it (the freeware one) in action, and you can check out the paid one on the jwirc website..

MULTICHANNEL SUPPORT! DCC! Nice interface, it pwnz!
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